i dont think maidana trained properly for morales

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  1. boxingscorecard

    boxingscorecard Active Member Full Member

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    im not taking anything away from morales but that was a very different maidana performance than the one that took on khan

    maidana was gassed after 4 rounds , his punches were evn slower and is accuracy was terrible.

    morales was excellent it wasnt his problem that maidana didnt prepare properly. Morales weathered the early storm then came right back into the fight with accurate punching.

    how the hell did he continue with that eye??? i thought the fight should have been stopped because of it but again morales showed just how much of a fighetr he is by doing the full 12 rounds with one eye.

    prime vs prime morales knocks maidana out before 6

    in a rematch if maidana trains properly - maidana wins by a much wider verdict , even by ko

    ps: i had the fight 115-113 maidana , level after 10 but maidana just pulled away in those last 2 rounds
     
  2. D50

    D50 Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think Maidana trains properly, period.
     
  3. wooootles

    wooootles Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Morales had something to prove
    Maidana was fighting David Diaz's leftovers, or so he thought

    Yep.
     
  4. Lights Out

    Lights Out Active Member Full Member

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    Can't agree more. I know it was a fast pace he set in the first but Morales was doing little back. If he kept that up for a few rounds there would be massive pressure on the ref (can't remember was it Tony Weeks?) to stop it. He proved against Cayo, Khan and Kotelnik he has a high workrate, I think he undertrained too- either that or he got too confident after the first and really started loading up on shots.
     
  5. romuald

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    no, its because He was against a season veteran and a technical fighter. If Morales was a little younger Maidana would:hi: be knockout. You see that Morales knew how to counter punch and put the combinations. He was just a little slow to finish the job. Maidana was all punch,,it was the stamina factor that made the edge in favor of Maidana:bbb
     
  6. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again, are you basing this on the "Maidana" in your head or on reality? He never was a full-intensity fighter or a stamina king, he just kept coming back from hell with pure heart which was needed again. He didn't look much worse than any other time, only Morales thought - and saw something good - that Maidana's style is ideal for him and he was in better shape than expected, so that resulted in a such a fight. More than undertrained Chino's late change of trainers could've affected his preparation mentally, he was supposed to prepare under Beristain, who 3 hours before arrival said go back to Argentina I won't train you. Plus add the Khan fight effects and that Chino couldn't use punching gloves (Morales' request), and you get this Maidana.

    When did he ever look in so much better shape?
     
  7. _Duran_

    _Duran_ Ugly Mofocker Full Member

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    stupid excuse. Maidana is average, thats why he got schooled by a shot to pieces Morales
     
  8. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have always wanted to say this:


    Great article. Would read again
     
  9. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    If you dont train properly you dont come into a fight throwing more punches than you ever have before.
     
  10. Pound4poundx

    Pound4poundx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I suppose that's why he nearly knocked out Khan, he knocked out Ortiz, lost a split decision to Kotelnik, and has been competitive against a very high level of opposition for the last 3 years!!
     
  11. Tora

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    going for the knockout + missing constantly + banging on an iron chin = exuastion
     
  12. Casual133

    Casual133 Active Member Full Member

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    I did think the same during the fight. Maidana may have took Morales lightly, but he sure learned his lesson, he look gassed in the second half.
     
  13. Hitman-Fan

    Hitman-Fan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're completly wrong

    It was the same Madina who foguth Khan. He just has no skills, a big heart and the ability to never cut or bruise

    Madina is a very simple fighter, and anyone with knowledge of when and how to throw a punch will beat him
     
  14. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think he trains properly period. He looked gassed in his last two fights. Although, The body shot he took from Khan might have contributed to it.
     
  15. knotty150

    knotty150 Active Member Full Member

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    There's a bit of a trend in boxing (from what I've experienced in recent years anyway), and thats technique/speed in most cases will always trump pure punching power. There are a few exceptions here and there but just a few examples:

    Hopkins vs Pavlik
    Martinez vs Pavlik
    Hopkins vs Pascal
    Dirrell vs Abraham
    Froch vs Abraham
    Khan vs Maidana

    I could go on. I think in this instance, Maidana was seriously loading up on individual shots, giving Morales the chance to block/evade a lot, hence the close decision.