Wow Whats with the Lemiuex Backlash

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  1. FistsOfFury

    FistsOfFury Active Member Full Member

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    Fair enough, but Khan is the perfect example then.
     
  2. fatcity

    fatcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both Davy and the trainer's experience showed last nite.They have a long way to go.Rubio is not even world class and he spanked the kid.
    Hopefully he will learn from this experience and come back with a new dedication.He is not as good as he or others thought.:-(
     
  3. Boxing Fanatic

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    he is hyped. the only difference now is how he comes back from a loss that matters
     
  4. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :deal I think more than ever before fighters are being hyped to levels never before seen creating an aura of invincibility. Which I think will only backfire on them later on down the road. I do agree Lemieux has tremendous potential, but he has to dig deep and be realistic and not actually believe in his own hype. If he is smart enough, he should understand that. Unfortunately, I think he did believe in his own hype and Rubio brought him back to reality. I won't jump to conclusions of Lemieux yet, l do believe he has that potential and he is a good fighter, but that doesn't excuse him from not being a hype job because his is. He showed he couldn't adapt to Rubio or learn to survive and he highly underestimated Rubio, knowing Rubio was a veteran of 40+ fights. Instead, IMO what Lemieux saw in Rubio were the 3 stoppages, not the Rubio of 40+ fights, and wanted to be the one to get stoppage number 4. At this point in career, it's obvious Lemieux hasn't been trained to go 12 rounds because he did not know how to pace himself or adjust to a situation. And these are the results.
     
  5. globenerd

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    Pac was not a hype job. He forced himself into the spotlight by win after spectacular win. Kahn is a better analogy, but still not the same thing. Khan got caught flush by a less-than-elite fighter, but a guy that can punch. He got caught really early before the fight could even get going.
    David Lemeiux got schooled over the course of the fight by a guy that knew exactly what he was doing the whole time, even in the early rounds that he lost. Then got KO'd.
     
  6. FistsOfFury

    FistsOfFury Active Member Full Member

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    He didn't get schooled over the course of the fight. He clearly won the first 5 rounds. He lost the six and was stopped in the seventh.
     
  7. Steenalized

    Steenalized Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ESB loves to overreact, if someone loses they're a hype job. Lemieux clearly isn't ready for the big time yet but he can still go far despite the setback.
     
  8. KnuckleUp99

    KnuckleUp99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think he's a hype job but he was very OVER hyped. He's not Roy Jones jr like some compared him to...He's a solid fighter. He's very talented but the biggest thing is he has a great foundation for a long career.

    Lemiuex's problem was his over confidence.....he was on record talkin dumb **** like he could break down Sergio tomorrow.:lol: Fact is he was dominating Rubio and had he faught less reckless and more tamed he would have dominated for 12 rounds or until Rubio wilted under the pressure.

    This may be a blessing in disguise. Hopefully this bring Lemiuex back to reality and humbles himself. That can do wonders for a very promising career. I agree with his corner in stopping the fight sooner rather than later. His ego is damaged but it's repariable. Had he been hurt worse his fighting mentality may not have recovered.
     
  9. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    That was Rubio's 43rd KO, and he has a total of 50 wins. Over the last 5 years Rubio's has gone 16-1 with 13 KO's. His only loss came against a pissed off world middleweight champion. The back lash against young David has a lot to do with the fact that posters on ESB criminally under rate Rubio.
     
  10. apollack

    apollack Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stoppage was good. Lemieux was going to get KO'd badly. It was inevitable. His legs were gone and he wasn't really showing the signs of being able to turn it around, particularly since he had shown that he could not take Rubio's punch. The tide had shifted in a big way. Also, like a young Tommy Morrison, he had shot his load at such a fast pace for so many rounds, that when he finally slowed, he was very vulnerable because his defense wasn't all that great and a power puncher like Lemieux who is a little stiff and straight up when he gets caught after being a bit fatigued by shooting his load usually doesn't take it very well.

    I don't think Lemieux's stock should totally plummet. Let's face it, the guy has speed and power and can really punch. Those were some vicious bombs he was hitting Rubio with and quite frankly, Rubio took a bit of an ass kicking in those early rounds. Not too many fighters could have survived that type of onslaught. But huge credit to Rubio for showing his toughness, ring generalship, and veteran poise and relaxation to weather the storm, stay calm and pick his punches and pace himself well, and show just enough defense to ride and block a lot of those punches. That's why a 50-fight veteran is always dangerous. Young kid got taught a valuable lesson. But I'd watch Lemieux again. He's entertaining, and if he can learn from the loss, can come back as a better fighter.
     
  11. FistsOfFury

    FistsOfFury Active Member Full Member

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    Fixed your post.
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Because that's the way it goes. When you're hyped up as much as Lemiuex and Kirkland were you can expect a huge backlash when they get Koed by B- fighters.
     
  13. laffie

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    I was not part of the hype, not because I don't think Lemieux is good, but because he is still very young and has many things to learn.

    Many pointed that the problem was him believing his own hype and I agree completely. He talked of beating Martinez and seing flaws in Bute's game in the week preceeding his fight against Rubio. Well, I guess Martinez and Bute must have had a smile on Saturday.

    I like him very much and am sure he will bounce back. It will be easier to find him some decent opponents. No one wanted to face him. Now find him some top 50 strong opponents in order for him to learn.

    David is a nice guy, he's intelligent, has tremendous power, good speed and pretty decent skills. He needs to work, that's all. He thought he was already at the top. He knows now that he still has a long road to do before reaching it.
     
  14. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it was fun while it lasted. he was an obvious hype job who is going to get hurt at a higher level
     
  15. technocrato

    technocrato Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wouldn't write off Lemieux of championship title quite yet though. Being 22, he has a lot of assets to build from. Not seeing them, as not seeing his flaws, is just pure blindness.

    Lemieux though has to learn from his mistake. History will tell.