If Frazier didn't defeat Ali, still ATG?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Agreed :good
    Frazier is my no 10 ,without the FOTC win, he drops out.
     
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  2. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, without FOTC he has no business in the top 10.
     
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  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    No Joe beat some very good technical boxers, but they were small and it wasn't awe inspiring stuff. He'd be seen as an excellent contender but a B Level Champion
     
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  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member

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    Well put I think :good
     
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  5. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets say that FOTC just doesnt happen at all...

    If Foreman wrecked him, Norton, and goes on to lose to Ali all the same, without Ali and Frazier meeting before hand.

    Joe rematches George before getting a shot at the champ, and loses. He'd be the one tough fighter of the era Ali didnt fight, if it goes down that way.

    His resume without Ali is way way weaker than vice versa, but I think its worthy to note the absence of a Frazier fight would actually be a hole by way of absence on the best heavyweight resume ever.
     
    MagnaNasakki, Apr 13, 2011
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  6. Stevie G

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    Maybe he was a prototype of Ziggy Stardust :lol:
     
    Stevie G, Apr 13, 2011
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  7. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Joe would still have been a top 10 heavy,albeit in the lower reaches of it,imo.
     
    Stevie G, Apr 13, 2011
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  8. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    On the strength of what win? Ellis?
     
    MagnaNasakki, Apr 13, 2011
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  9. DannyL12345

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    He wouldn't be Top 10 without Ali
     
    DannyL12345, Apr 13, 2011
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  10. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jeez B.E., what was i thinking? Ive been stressed out a little lately with work, double homicides, a captain who sees no action from behind his chair, and 7 days to get the 'purp' or im gettin busted down to vice-and thats straight from the 5th floor!!. I aint been outta my shoes in 48hrs, got 2 peptic ulcers,2 ex-wives and im 6months from my retirement......give me a break!!!:|

    Can i take back my 'Ziggy' comment?:oops:
     
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