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Lazarus' is the only **** post on here.

 

Anyone who hast yet got the Nipper Daly book, do so. It's a great read and I can't put it down. Anyone who doesn't no about him, Gaz done a brilliant write up about him. Someone should dig it out and post it on this thread if it hasn't already been done.

 

I think he also holds the record of having most fights against fellow hall of famers (26 fights against HOF), with a record of 18 wins 8 losses and 1 draw. Some fighters dont even have that many fights in their whole careers.

edit, he also beat every hall of famer he fought at some stage (14 of them), including pancho villa when he was only 17 !!!

 

Appreciate it mate. Really enjoyed your pieces on Harada (especially) and Rodriguez. I'm slowly getting through it each page. A beast of a thread and as I've said to Mandanda, arguably the best thread I've seen on here in my time as a member.

Got some spare time on my hands at the moment so might post up some more. I would do a Carl Thompson one but, ****, it'll end up being 10,000 words or something

 

Name: Jimmy Mclarnin
Alias: Baby Faced assasin/Jew killer/Irish Lullaby/Belfast Spider
D.O.B: 19/Dec/1907
Nationality: Irish/Canadian
Hometown: Hillsbrough, Co.Down Ireland.
Divisions: Lightweight to Welterweight
Record: 55wins (21KO), 11 losses,3 draws


Jimmy Mclarnin

McLarnin was born in Hillsborough Co. Down (Ireland), into a large Methodist family who emigrated to Vancouver when he was three. He took up boxing at the age of 10 after getting into a fight trying to defend his newspaper-selling pitch. Former professional Charles "Pop" Foster recognised McLarnin's talent at the age of 13. Foster constructed a makeshift gym for McLarnin to train in, sure that he would one day be the champion of the world. The two of them would remain close, so much so that when Foster passed away, he left everything he had to McLarnin.
Following a successful start to his career in Vancouver, Foster took McLarnin to San Francisco, where his youthful appearance made it difficult to get a fight until he lied about his age, it is for this reason that McLarnin was known as the "Baby-faced Assassin". Despite his youthful appearance, McLarnin had incredible power with both fists, his right being particularly feared. However, like many similar fighters Mclarnin suffered several hand injuries throughout his career, towards the end of his career McLarnin was forced to become more of a boxer due to this.
McLarnin lost his first title shot on 21 May 1928 in New York against world lightweight champion Sammy Mandell. Though he did go on to beat him twice in the following two years. It would be five years before McLarnin would next get a title shot, during which time he knocked out several top names including Al Singer , Ruby Goldstein, and Sid Terris.
McLarnin's second title shot came against welterweight champion Young Corbett III, McLarnin won by knockout after only 2 minutes 37 seconds. Following his title success, McLarnin fought an epic three fight series with Barney Ross. The first fight, on 28 May 1934, was won by Ross, McLarnin regained his title in their next match four months later. The deciding fight was on 28 May 1935, McLarnin lost his title for the final time to a narrow points decision, for the rest of his life McLarnin claimed he had done enough to retain his belt.

McLarnin retired in November 1936 still at the top his game, he won his last two fights against all-time greats Tony Canzoneri and Lou Ambers. His record was 62 wins, 11 losses, 3 draws, and 1 no decision from 77 contests. In 1996 Ring Magazine voted McLarnin as the fifth-greatest welterweight of all time. In essence when looking at his record against truly great fighters and his rise throught the weight divisions it is not absurd to note Mclarnin as the Manny Pacquiao of his day. Having fought 14 hall of fame fighters in a record 25 contest and beating all of them at least once barring one SD loss to Lou Brouillard it easy to see what a remarkable fighter Mclarnin was.

Unlike many boxers, McLarnin invested his money wisely and retired a wealthy man. He opened an electrical goods store, and also did some acting, golfing, and lecturing, he never returned to the ring despite the large incentives for him to do so.
McLarnin died in 2004, aged 96, and was interred in the Forest Lawn Memorial Park Cemetery in Glendale, California.




Record against the greats (Hall of Fame fighters)

vs Tony Canzoneri
1 Win - 1 Loss

vs Barney Ross
1 Win - 2 Losses

vs Lou Ambers
1 Win

vs Benny Leonard
1 Win [TKO]

vs Billy Petrolle
2 Wins - 1 Loss

vs Bud Taylor
1 Win [DQ] - 2 Losses

vs Pancho Villa
1 Win

vs Fidel LaBarba
2 Wins - 1 Draw

vs Young Corbett III
1 Win [TKO]

vs Sammy Mandell
2 Wins - 1 Loss

vs Kid Kaplan
1 Win [KO]

vs Jackie Fields
1 Win [KO]

vs Lou Brouillard
1 loss [SD]

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Some of his Fights


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Jimmy Mclarnin Vs Barney Ross (1 part of a trilogy of fights)

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Jimm McLArnin Vs Al Singer

 

When can we expect chapter 2?

 

Yeah what's goin on Messi (that's how I got my unfortunate moniker BTW) where's the rest?

Shaun, cheers mucker, glad people liked the Harada one, he's one of my favourites so I'm glad I've seemingly done him justice :good

 

you ****ers, I pressed tab twice whilst editing and it posted the unfinished article.

Hope you enjoy. 80% of it was robbed from wiki

 

Nah, you've pretty much shown exactly how f'n great McLarnin was.

Shame the rematch with Canzoneri isn't available. McLarnin has real success in the early going, in the first he really knocks Canzoneri around, but Canzoneri goes on to win comfortable IMO, putting McLarnin on ***** street.

By all accounts McLarnin destroys Canzoneri throughout the rematch. Canzoneri had an ATG chin though, only stopped once, in his final fight and the bigger contender, and notoriously murderous puncher, 'Bummy' Davis.

McLarnins win over Young Corbett III (I'd say greater than II ;-)) was a massive shock at the time, especially considering the manner of victory.

 

Julio Cesar Chavez

sex: male
birth date: 1962-07-12
division: light welterweight
stance: orthodox
height: 5′ 7½″ / 171cm
reach: 68″ / 173cm
alias: J.C.
country: Mexico
residence: Culiacan, Sinaloa, Mexico
birth place: Ciudad Obregon, Sonora, Mexico
birth name: Julio Cesar Chavez Gonzalez

won 107 (KO 86) + lost 6 (KO 4) + drawn 2 = 115
rounds boxed 633 KO% 74.78

Julio Cesar Chavez, the ultimate Mexican hero, had the longest unbeaten streak in boxing. He grew in Culiacan, Mexico and has always been a very sporty/athletic lad. At school he would play football and baseball, come home and play volleyball in the evening before going to the boxing gym at night, mainly because his two elder brothers didn't want him to box so he had to wait til they had finished in the gym before he could go in. Growing up there wasn't a big boxing scene in Culiacan so he asked his fathers permission whether he could pursue his dream and go to Tijuana where greater oppotunities await him. Growing up Julio's father worked on the railroad and they lived in a small shack at the side of the track and upon leaving he promised his mother he wouldn't return until he had brought her a new home. He first got really noticed when his manager contacted the president of the WBC and asked for Chavez to fight for the vacant title. He was ranked in 6th or 7th but was moved up to 2nd when Suliaman was deemed to think the fighters above him were only there because of their names. Before the fight Chavez had finished his mothers new house. At 33-1-2, Mario Martinez was a tricky boxer and was the slight favourite going in, but chavez stopped at the end of the 8th.
After winning his first title and returning home he brought his father a gold bracelet with his name on with diamond studs. It was stolen 1 day when nodding off on the train a gang set to him and threw him off the train, leaving him paralyzed down the left side of his body. Chavez would often joke with him, holding $100 bills above his left hand, so his father would try his utmost to try and grab them:yep.

Chavez made 9 defence's of his WBC super feather title against the likes of Ruben Castillo, Roger Mayweather in 2 rounds and Juan La Porte.

In his debut at Lightweight he fought the hard hitting and, P4P one of the biggest punchers of the 80's, Edwin Rosario.

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If you like pressure fighting this is a must see fight. It was also in this fight that his red head band became famous. It was said that Rosario's mother was a witch and cast a spell over Chavez so he wore the headband to fight off evil spirits.
Chavez continued to wreck through the division and again moved up, to 140 to become a 3 weight world champion. It was in a unification fight (IBF/WBC) with Meldrick Taylor that Chavez is most well remembered. With taylor up on the cards but had been beaten throughout Chavez manages to stop him with 4 seconds left on the clock, some people claim it was an unfair stoppage but not for me, he was completely gone on his feet and Richard Steele made a good call IMO.

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Chavez continued in his usual form, dominating Puerto Rican loud mouth Hector Camacho

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He then desroyed American Greg Haughen in front of a record (i think) 106,000 (correct me if im wrong, its off the top of my head) and fought ATG Pernall Whittaker to a controvsial draw.

Then it came, the streak has ended 89-0-1. Frankall Randall has shocked the world, beating Chavez and knocking him down for the first time in his career although beat him in his next fight in the re-match and following that with a TKO8 win over former opponent Meldick Taylor.

In his bid to become a 4 weigh world champ Chavez was held to a draw with Miguel Angel Gonzales and a 4th round TKO loss to rising star Oscar De La Hoya, Chavez was badly cut in sparring and shouldn't really have fought as the cut was re-opened almost straight away. Chavez earned $9million for this fight which was more than Don King paid him his whole Career. In the Re-match Chavez retired on his stool on at the end of the 8th round.

Winding down his Career Chavez lost to Ricky Hatton victim Kostya Tszyu and won the Rubber match with Frankie Randall.

Chavez holds the record for the most World title fights, 37 and was inducted into the Boxing Hall of Fame in 2011

Boxing has much to owe the ever exciting Julio Cesar Chavez, awesome fighter:deal

 

Nice one, LP :good

I did like your open ended mention of a controversial draw with Whitaker. No mention of why it was controversial.

 

This thread is brilliant, I have no idea why I've never ventured into here before.

Great work to all those who have contributed. Some really classy posts in here. :good

 

Beautiful chaps. I enjoy the old timer ones most, I get the most out of them.

 

That Chavez one was brill' LP :good

Kalambay will get done next week. Any old-timers that anyone is particularly curious about? I'll see if I can help.

 

Was gonna suggest a Harada one but just noticed you've already covered him. Brilliant stuff.