has floyd actually done what he set out to do

No man. Manny started the serious weight gain prior to the Diaz fight. At that point it was quite obvious what was going on because Manny was taking on bigger and bigger guys. I don't know why the Hatton fight would raise that much suspicion because he fouhgt ODLH at a heavier weight than Hatton and fought cokehead Ricky after he beat a drained ODLH who hadn't fought in 2 years and needed an IV before the fight because he was so dehydrated. I don't know where you get your info but Zahir Raheem and his crew couldn't nail down a fight with Manny and testing was definitely one of the issues that came up and that was back in 05. So Manny and roid suspicion has been going on here in Vegas at least since after the 2nd JMM fight! That's when guys started to want to know what HGH and Winstral can do for you in the gym.

 

No dude, I don't know what generation you're from. But where I come from when you out someone there's repercussions and bad bad karma. Not only that but that's a pretty spineless thing to do when I haven't seen anybody inject anybody. But there sure are plenty of symtoms. But what do you care? They're just entertaining you. I don't have a problem with roids. I just think everybody should be able to do it or nobody. Take a cue from Greg Anderson. At least he has balls enough not to sale people out. Most people would sell out there mothers to stay outta prison. That **** is tired. Tell you what. It don't take much to find out. All you have to do is join a boxing gym and start getting basic instruction. Most good gyms have some kind of fight library that you can access. Ask your trainer,"why do guys use peds?" I bet you 100 bucks he takes you right to that fight library so you can see for yourself. My trainer did. And man it's pretty apparent who D-balls and who doesn't and who's an HGH program and who's not. That's why I find it so crazy that there's no real testing in boxing. In the 80's and 90's everybody was on the ****. Holyfield even trained with Lee Haney. Michael Jordan D-balled to put on 15 lbs of upper body weight to beat Magic and the Lakers. Remember Kobes Popeye guns in 2004 when Shaq was on Vacation in street clothes all season. every jock is looking for an edge and "If you're not cheating you're not trying and it's only cheating if you get caught!"

 

LAS VEGAS -- Lightweight boxing champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. has been convicted of two counts of misdemeanor battery stemming from a fight with two women inside a Las Vegas nightclub.

Mayweather was given a suspended sentence of one-year in jail and ordered to undergo counseling. Justice of the Peace Deborah Lippis said Thursday that if Mayweather didn't complete "impulse control" counseling and stay out of trouble for a year, he would spend a year in prison.

She also ordered the boxer to either pay a $1,000 fine or serve 100 hours of community service.

Lippis appeared to be angered by Mayweather's failure to take responsibility, saying if he didn't change his attitude she'd put him in prison in a "New York minute."

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The only thing he accomplished lately is pick another fight with a woman. In the PI, we call those BAKLA.

 

Yeah man definitely the face of boxing and there's nobody more qualified. Case you didn't know my man boxers beatin bitches ain't nothin new. I don't really dig it but if I'm looking for a role model I'll try Dr. Harry Edwards, Curt Flood, DR. Spock, Wynton Marsalis, Ron Paul, Dr. Todd Boyd, Mark Cuban! These are all people who actually give a **** about people, humanity and the pursuit of a Homogenous culture.

 

Uhh, sorry bro. A-side meth definitely exist. Don't get me wrong I don't know anybody on it and all I use is Green Tea Extract, CLA & Stem-U-Lite! But I've been shown where I can get a taste of this so-called mystery drug that nobody (including myself) has never seen. But I know it's out there because there's an obvious market for it.

 

Yup...ducked Pacquiao.

 

Also Pac beat the **** of Hatton because Ricky did everything he was told not to do. It's not the like the Hattons are a world class boxing family or anything like that or they wouldn't have needed anybody outside of their own klan. I think what you saw in Hatton was similar to what we saw in Kirkland this past weekend. Kenny Adams and Kirkland were never really tight and had no real connection. Same thing with Hatton and Sr. No real connection and sr. was very disappointed about where Ricky's fundamental were at the time. This was a guy who only defense was his grill or his gut. And not even Floyd Sr. could change that! Ricky is not capable of making any adjustments at all and that's nobody's fault but Ricky's!

 

Are you a paid Mayweather stooge? You post unsubstantiated claims that have never come up before and try to pass it off as truth with no evidence, and of course it's always pro-Mayweather, anti-Pac.

 

If Floyd was ever concerned about steroids in boxing, why did he not lobby his elected representative to highlight the issue? Why did he not petition all the boxing commissions to introduce stricter testing? Why did he not demand the same of all his opponents? Why he is he more concerned with beating up girlfriends and security guards than with 'cleaning up boxing'? Why did he only mention PED's when possibly the only fighter on the planet that could beat him, tried to negotiate a fight with him?

Floyd doesn't care about steroids, he doesn't care about legacy, and he certainly doesn't care about the fans. Floyd cares about Floyd and his beloved zero, end of.

 

You are wrong. I've been to Pac vs Sanchez, Pac vs Morales I, Pac vs JMM I & II! I respect Manny as much as any fighter in the game today! I also went to Money vs Hernandez, Money vs Mosely and Money vs Corrales & MOney vs Augustus! And Floyd never lost a fight. I thought Manny was exciting and a lot of fun to watch but I thought he lost every fight I saw him in. That leaves quite an impression when I watch him now!

 

I'm not saying any of this is fact. This is what I've heard because I'm in the gym all the time. I love boxing and in particular amateur boxing. So there's always guys (professionals) around when there in Vegas. They do free classes, seminars or just lend their time to guys who want to learn the sport. To me this is the coolest thing about Vegas. You can go over to Barry's Boxing and talk to guys like Buddy McGirt, or Roberto Garcia (when he's not at La Colonia in Oxnard) or Jeff Mayweather who's super-pro-active with guys no matter what age who want to learn how to box. so I;m not saying this as if it's the word of God. I'm just telling you what I hear and a Little of what I see. I have no reason to have an agenda. I think Floyd's a great fighter but I'm not in love with him. I think Manny is a great fighter and I'm not in love with him either. I just know for a fact that Money is the most accomplished boxer in the world. That doesn't mean I love him.

 

And I guarantee all the *******s are going to help him keep that 0. Because if Manny is all you got, it's going to be real real tough to take that 0!

 

Mayweather was never out to clean up the sport. He thought Pac may be on something and wanted to him to take better testing because the current testing is ****.

And because two egos got in the way this huge blow up happened.

The fact is, Pac is on nothing and the test weren't needed but Pac actions and reactions toward taking the test make this all ****ing ******ed.

Seriously, if 14 days was going to be fine in the future, why the **** not accept it in the first place?

Both are to blame, end of story.

 

Oh Dam! Objectivity! Very rare in these parts! U GO!

 

Whoa, look at that weight gain! 144 on Nov 2006 to 149 on Nov 2011. 5 pounds in 5 years! Pac IS on PEDs!

Hi Floyd! :hi:

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Pacquiao vs. Morales: November, 2006

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Pacquiao vs. Barrera: October 2007 ( Pacquiao's official weight was 130, and in-ring was 144.)

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Pacquiao vs. Diaz: June, 2008

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Pacquiao vs. De La Hoya: December, 2008.

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Pacquaio vs. Hatton: May, 2009

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