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PRIME Vitali vs PRIME Tyson ? WHO Wins?

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hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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Tyson early ko. Whoever thinks that robot can beat a Prime Tyson is on crack.

hussleman, Mar 22, 2011

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Manning said: ↑

Tyson is the younger of the two, but I suppose I did forget Tyson only had a prime for about 7 months when he was knocking over bar doormen and firemen etc.

The best that were the same age as Tyson in his era were of course Tyson, Lewis, Bowe and Holyfield. Tyson in 3 fights amongst these other HOF fighters manged a pathetic 3 fights, 3 defeats, 3 tko's, embarrassing really never mind that he also in his 'prime' was destroyed by old Buster.
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Tysons Prime actually was around 86 and he peaked at 88. I believe thats more than 7 months.

Tyson was knocking over doormen but those guys were ATGS compared to the Klits opponents.

He never fought Bowe, because they were from the same neighbourhood and agreed not to fight each other.

He fought Holyfield after spending 3 years in prison

He fought Lennox 15 (FIFTEEN) years past his best (and 3 years in prison also)

Yes he lost to Buster Douglas in his prime, but its well known that he didnt train properly for the fight and came in overconfident

Vitali quit against both of the best fighters he fought.

Nice try son

Azzer85, Apr 2, 2011

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Caliboxing said: ↑

Chris Byrd.

That's all you need to know.

First of all, when the heck was Vitali's prime anyway? When he fight Byrd, Lewis or in the past year or two?

When he fought Byrd, he was terribly stiff and his stamina wasn't great. When he fight Lewis, he looked great but was done after the 6th round.
He was probably in his prime about 1-2 years ago, because he has become somewhat more fluid now and showed unbelivable stamina for a big guy against Arreola.

I just don't see someone as upright and stiff as Dr. Franken..., I mean Dr. Ironstiff not getting demolished against Tyson. Tyson would get inside and seriously punish him. Prime Tyson had better stamina than prime Vitali also.

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No offense to the Klitites.
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If it cant bend, it snaps :good

Azzer85, Apr 2, 2011

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so let's be honest and realistic, and i give a **** on the tyson lovers.
vitali would get caught a couple of times in the first 3 rounds. then he would find his timing and the distance and beat tyson down and tko him late. that is what vitali always does. tyson is a mental case and would get discouraged after getting countered with very heavy hands from wiered angles. he would get caugt flush with vitalis hybrid punch (uppercut hook) and with the jab and straight right. the jab would stop tysons attacks, because every time if he is close he will get a hard jab or left hook/uppercut in his face. he would get wild and lose. vitali will only have problems with tall, good chinned, good stamina, fast and hard punching fighters. he would have a good fight with bowe, holmes, ali, lewis, and prime wladimir (wlad right now) and co. he would lose some and win some against them

Mordechai, Apr 2, 2011

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funny how tyson primed at 22

seems to be the only human on the planet

Guybino, Apr 2, 2011

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Laws of physics don't apply to Tyson when he was dominated by numerous tomato cans. Fought in the worst era of HW boxing ever.

eagleskins, Apr 4, 2011

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is this a serious question?

homebrand, Apr 4, 2011

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Laws of physics don't apply to Tyson when he was dominated by numerous tomato cans. Fought in the worst era of HW boxing ever.
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If you're seriously saying that James Tillis, Mitch Green, Jose Ribalta, Trevor Berbick, Bonecrusher Smith, Tony Tucker, Tyrell Biggs, Michael spinks, Frank Bruno, Carl the truth Williams Razor Ruddock doesn't compare to vitali victims:
Ross Purity, Corrie sanders, Danny Williams, Sam Peter, Herbie Hide, chris Byrd, Orlin Norris, Kirk Johnson etc then I want your dealers number!!
Coz you smokin dat good ****!!

Jayhaych, Apr 13, 2011

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Vitali by knockout!

Farmboxer, Apr 14, 2011

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tyson stops vitali

Mr Butt, Apr 14, 2011

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it would be like tyson-bruno all over again.....

hooligan, Apr 14, 2011

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Gained said: ↑

every time someone mentions Prime Tyson within 1 round I have to step in and pop the bubble by refreshing the memories:

And although Tysons KOloss has been described as one of the most shocking upsets in modern sports history it was NOT a fluke: It was because Iron Mike Tyson was in reality Tiny Mike Tyson (510)

Lets check what happened when Tyson met
BETTER+TALLER (i.e. > 63)opponents:

First time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Mitch Green (65.0) > UD10
Second time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·James Bonecrusher Smith (64.0) > UD10
Third time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Tony Tucker (65.0) > UD12
Fourth time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Buster Douglas (63.5) > Tyson gets KOed
Sixth time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Lennox Lewis (65.0) > Tyson gets KOed
Seventh time Mike met a taller+better opponent:
·Kevin McBride (66.0) > Tyson gets KOed

Now, what he achieved career-wise DESPITE his size is remarkable. But to claim that he would beat every opponent within 1 round (including modern heavyweights like ·vitali Klitschko) is simply ignorance of his CAREER FACTS.

The ONLY time Tyson scored a knockout against a taller+better opponent was against ·Lou Savarese (46-6). But that was some strange KO (Tyson was lucky he wasnt disqualified) and Savarese came from a loss after a 1-year-layoff. So its hardly a proof for Tyson, the Goliath-killer.

Lets also quote a trainer who has eyewitnessed both Tyson and Klitschko:

Question:
You have worked with a lot of world class fighters. Is Tyson the hardest puncher you have ever seen or should I say felt?

Freddie Roach:
Punch for punch I think Klitschko probably hits a little bit harder but Mikes much more explosive.

that was an extract from an Interview with Freddie Roach.

Tyson struggled with guys much worse than vitali, such as Bonecrusher Smith. If klit employed his hugging style he would have a chance of decisioning him. Tyson is smaller and weaker than Peter, and so klit would have an even easier time controlling him in the clinches. Tyson always had trouble with a god jab, even Larry Holmes, who was in the worst professional shape of his life (coming off a two year layoff with no warmup) gave him some trouble for a few rounds with the jab.

vitali also has probably the greatest chin in hw history!!.

Tyson was the product of careful matchmaking and a great hype machine; a man who was too reliant on intimidation for his success He never fought Riddick Bowe, Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield in his prime or even a comebacking George Foreman. That tells you something Tyson was unproven in his prime.

Look at the cab drivers and crack wh*res Tyson was knocking out to get a title shot I mean what big name did he beat? A 38 year old Larry Holmes!?? A small and rusty Michael Spinks?! If people are gonna say Rocky Marciano knocked out a past-it Joe Louistake a long hard look at devastating Tysons early opponents.

Vitali was hard for LENNOX LEWIS to hit square due to his awkward lean back style. You have to figure Tyson with his short arms, short reach, and affinity for nailing people in the head would have trouble with Vitali's low guard and leaning back to avoid punches.

On offense Vitali is a monster, he has a decent jab, great right cross, and good upper cut.

Tyson liked to flurry and go to the body some and Vitali's style just doesn't fit for that kind of fight. Certain fighters gave Tyson hell, the tall fighters who can box, take a shot, and have the ability to win on points.

Tysonistas would like to believe that somehow at age 23 Mike's (referring to his prime and the douglas debacle)
skills quite suddenly declined to a shadow of what they'd been only months earlier, never to return.

The fact is that someone exploited all of the weaknesses that Tyson had in the ring and proved that Tyson was a good but limited heavyweight who could be dominated and KTFO.

Tyson was underprepared in Tokyo, but he was still the fighter he was a few months earlier in his fine KO of Williams.
He just had no answers for a big, tall heavyweight with an excellent stiff jab and top boxing abilities.

A prime Vitali would destroy Tyson
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miketysonko, Apr 14, 2011

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Picked Tyson but im not fully convinced..... Give Vitali a shot alot better chance than his bro..... Wlad would get Knock the Fu*k out by Iron MIke.

anarci, Apr 14, 2011

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tyson by knock out too quick mobile and vicious .

duran duran, Apr 14, 2011

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anarci said: ↑

Picked Tyson but im not fully convinced..... Give Vitali a shot alot better chance than his bro..... Wlad would get Knock the Fu*k out by Iron MIke.
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I'm convinced that Mike would at least win by UD...Vitali engages more than Wlad IMO and so it could be a late stoppage for mike.....Wlad has UD written all over it...clinch Jab clinch jab..occasional right hand...Wlad sure as **** wouldn't leave his chin out for mike to bomb....Bonecrusher smith re-run written all over it:bbb

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