So apparently Pacquiao's easy to hit...

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  1. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    A number of Clottey's right hands were blocked/parried (mostly blocked). For the amount of right hands he threw...he landed a good few throughout the bout, Pacquiao's face was evidence of that.

    De La Hoya is not known for his straight right, nor is Cotto, nor is Hatton...and Margarito is very slow.
     
  2. PH|LLA

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    not being known for a punch and not having a decent one are two different things. To say neither Oscar, Cotto, nor Hatton have decent right hands is exaggerated and the sign of a hater. Hatton's right hand might be ****, but Cotto definitely has a good right hand even if he is not known for it. And Oscar's right hand is not his best punch but I would definitely qualify it as decent.
     
  3. bballchump11

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    Come on now. You're going to far :patsch Oscar and Cotto are both left handed. Cotto had to get surgery on his right shoulder because it was screwed up. Steward said that he would be painful for him to throw it and that it really hasn't been healthy until the Mayorga fight
     
  4. AnthonyW

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    Mayweather is my favourite boxer. I very much try to remain unbiased.

    I enjoy watching Mayweather box, but I equally enjoy Pacquiao go at it.

    No, I do see the little things, I just don't give him credit for things he doesn't deserve credit for.

    Mayweather fans give Mayweather too much credit. You give Pacquiao too much credit...I am not the only one of this opinion. A debate about Pacquiao's body shots is evidence of this.

    Pacquiao has outperformed what you expected of him...this is why you overrate him. Pacquiao is a great, great fighter...but I'm not going to give him credit for things that he doesn't do. He doesn't smother uppercuts, he adopts his usual defense, doesn't take a step forward...but somehow smothers his opponents work. He is open to the straight right, once again...his guard allows that.
     
  5. nuketurnal

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    oh snap, i envisioned this thread to have few responses because there's really no active or few retired fighter that could satisfy the question but this place turned to something else..
     
  6. AnthonyW

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    A hater? You have been arguing with 12 year olds far too long.

    De La Hoya v Pacquiao was in the worst shape of his career. Part credit to Pacquiao for his movement, part credit to DLH's bad judgement.

    Cotto has a decent right hand, but has no power in it. At times he is very much reliant on his left.

    Hatton didn't have a bad right hand, but it was more of a leaping right hand if I remember rightly. He actually landed a decent right hand that stopped Pacquiao in his tracks, before he was knocked out.
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    here's what I said about Cotto's right hand before the PAc vs Cotto fight. I think that's pretty accurate and noone said I was going too far back then. Just cause Pac whooped Cotto and Steward came out with that statement I'm supposed to say Cotto doesn't have a decent right hand like Mr.Unbiased?

     
  8. PH|LLA

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    I don't remeber Hatton landing a right hand that stopped Pac in his tracks. Haven't seen it in a while tho. Post a vid and show it.

    And also notice how you went from saying Cotto does no have a decent right hand to saying he does. And from sayingOscar does not have a decent right hand to saying OScar was in the worst shape of his career. wtf is up with that.
     
  9. AnthonyW

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    Rewatch the 2nd round.
     
  10. Ringnut

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    Yeah :lol: It's mostly a debate on how effective those uppercuts that snap Pac's head back are. I wonder if swarmers like Armstrong were hit often, I haven't watched many of his fights outside of what I've seen on youtube....
     
  11. Leon

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    +1, Cotto looks awkward shooting the right
     
  12. PH|LLA

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    [yt]V1DXmoERWpE[/yt]

    where?

    as far as I'm concerned Hatton as a **** rigt hand, even if he landed it once on PAc
     
  13. Ringnut

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    Since a lot of people here are saying here that "no, Pac ain't easy to hit but he still has a leaky defense" so I guess another question would be, how much of the situations where he does get hit are results of a leaky defense and much are simply results of the amounts of punches he throws? Is it possible to have a similar punch output and still be very rarely hit? Who are the fighters who were successful doing this?
     
  14. AnthonyW

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    I remember the shot differently. It was a different camera angle I think...

    I can't tell if it's this shot or not...

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDIsoDIourw&feature=related[/ame]

    ...6.57.

    I have posted the shot before. Can't find the video.
     
  15. AnthonyW

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    I did not say Cotto didn't have a decent right hand, I said he isn't known for it...stop twisting words.
    And I am correct about DLH...he is not known for his right hand, and he was in the worst shape of his career...even if he did have a very good right hand, Pacquiao's speed, combined with DLH's shape would equate to DLH not landing the straight right anyway.