Pacquiao has been p4p#1 for 41 months, to Floyd's 29 - is this correct?

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  1. Kittikasem

    Kittikasem Guest

    Is this correct?

    As far as I remember, Floyd was installed as the p4p#1 after B-Hop 'lost' the first fight with Jermain Taylor in July 2005, and his tenure ended when he retired after the Hatton win in December 2007, giving him a reign of 2 years and 5 months.

    Pacquiao became the p4p#1 in December 2007, and has reigned ever since, giving him to date a period in power of 3 years and 5 months.

    Are these dates right?
     
  2. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    Pacquiao became p4p #1 around june/july when Floyd retired, no?
     
  3. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I would like to know who holds the record of longest p4p #1?
     
  4. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    I think Hagler..from '82-'87...I could be wrong tho.
     
  5. Kittikasem

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    Hmmm. Hagler must've had a good few years, maybe 1982-87. Roy Jones was there or thereabouts from 1994 til 2004, but he lost it intermittently to Oscar in around '97 for a while, and Sugar Shane from '00 to '02.

    I say Hagler, 5 years.
     
  6. Kittikasem

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    I thought Floyd retired earlier than that? I could be wrong though.
     
  7. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I think you are right I looked it up and ring magazine has him number 1 from 83-86 and in 87 there was no list for some reason. but hagler lost to leonard that year so I guess he has the most most months till then.
     
  8. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    I found this list:

    1980

    KO Magazine (January)
    1 - Roberto Duran
    2 - Sugar Ray Leonard
    3 - Wilfredo Gomez
    4 - Danny Lopez
    5 - Pipino Cuevas
    6 - Alexis Arguello
    7 - Larry Holmes
    8 - Wilfred Benitez
    9 - Vito Antuofermo/Matt Saad Muhammad (tie)


    1981

    KO Magazine (January)
    1 - Thomas Hearns
    2 - Sugar Ray Leonard
    3 - Marvin Hagler
    4 - Larry Holmes
    5 - Alexis Arguello
    6 - Wilfredo Gomez
    7 - Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
    8 - Matt Saad Muhammmad
    9 - Wilfred Benitez
    10 - Roberto Duran/Aaron Pryor (tie)

    1982

    KO Magazine
    1. Sugar Ray Leonard
    2. Alexis Arguello
    3. Marvin Hagler
    4. Salvador Sanchez
    5. Wilfred Benitez
    6. Larry Holmes
    7. Jeff Chandler
    8. Eusebio Pedroza
    9. Aaron Pryor
    10. Thomas Hearns/Dwight Braxton* (tie)

    *Dwight Muhammad Qawi

    1983

    KO Magazine
    1. Marvin Hagler
    2. Aaron Pryor
    3. Larry Holmes
    4. Michael Spinks
    5. Jeff Chandler
    6. Thomas Hearns
    7. Alexis Arguello
    8. Wilfredo Gomez
    9. Hector Camacho
    10. Eusebio Pedroza

    1984

    KO Magazine
    1. Marvin Hagler
    2. Aaron Pryor
    3. Larry Holmes
    4. Eusebio Pedroza
    5. Hector Camacho
    6. Ray Leonard
    6. Jeff Chandler
    8. Michael Spinks
    9. Thomas Hearns
    10. Donald Curry

    1985

    KO Magazine
    1. Marvin Hagler
    2. Hector Camacho
    3. Michael Spinks
    4. Donald Curry
    5. Thomas Hearns
    6. Barry McGuigan
    7. Milton McCrory
    8. Julio Cesar Chavez
    8. Pinklon Thomas
    10. Larry Holmes

    1986

    KO Magazine
    1. Marvin Hagler
    2. Mike Tyson
    3. Donald Curry
    4. Thomas Hearns
    5. Edwin Rosario
    6. Azumah Nelson
    6. Michael Spinks
    8. Evander Holyfield
    9. Julio Cesar Chavez
    10. Hector Camacho

    1988

    KO Magazine
    1. Mike Tyson
    2. Julio Cesar Chavez
    3. Evander Holyfield
    4. Ray Leonard
    5. Jeff Fenech
    6. Michael Nunn
    7. Azumah Nelson
    8. Jung Koo Chang
    9. Buddy McGirt
    10. Sumbu Kalambay

    1989

    1. Mike Tyson
    2. Julio Cesar Chavez
    3. Pernell Whitaker
    4. Michael Nunn
    5. Antonio Esparragoza
    6. Meldrick Taylor
    7. Azumah Nelson
    8. Raul Perez
    9. Virgil Hill
    10. Marlon Starling

    1990

    1. Julio Cesar Chavez
    2. Pernell Whitaker
    3. Michael Nunn
    4. Antonio Esparragoza
    5. Meldrick Taylor
    6. Evander Holyfield
    7. Mike Tyson
    8. Raul Perez
    9. Myung-Woo Yuh
    10. Khaosai Galaxy

    1992

    1. Julio Cesar Chavez
    2. Pernell Whitaker
    3. Terry Norris
    4. Orlando Canizales
    5. James (Buddy) McGirt
    6. Riddick Bowe
    7. Azumah Nelson
    8. Sung-Kil Moon
    9. Julian Jackson
    10. James Toney

    1993

    1. Pernell Whitaker
    2. Julio Cesar Chavez
    3. James Toney
    4. Michael Carbajal
    5. Orlando Canizales
    6. Evander Holyfield
    7. Ricardo Lopez
    8. Roy Jones Jr.
    9. Kennedy McKinney
    10. Yuri Arbachakov

    1994

    1. Pernell Whitaker
    2. Roy Jones Jr.
    3. Orlando Canizales
    4. Ricardo Lopez
    5. Humberto Gonzalez
    6. Frankie Randall
    7. Felix Trinidad
    8. Gerald McClellan
    9. Miguel Angel Gonzalez
    10. Kevin Kelley

    1995

    1. Pernell Whitaker
    2. Roy Jones Jr.
    3. Ricardo Lopez
    4. Oscar De La Hoya
    5. Felix Trinidad
    6. Yuri Arbachakov
    7. Kostya Tszyu
    8. Riddick Bowe
    9. Marco Antonio Barrera
    10. Terry Norris

    1996

    1. Roy Jones Jr.
    2. Oscar De La Hoya
    3. Pernell Whitaker
    4. Felix Trinidad
    5. Ricardo Lopez
    6. Junior Jones
    7. Kostya Tszyu
    8. Terry Norris
    9. Evander Holyfield
    10. Mark Johnson

    1997

    KO Magazine
    1. Oscar De La Hoya
    2. Roy Jones Jr.
    3. Felix Trinidad
    4. Pernell Whitaker
    5. Evander Holyfield
    6. Terry Norris
    7. Junior Jones
    8. Ricardo Lopez
    9. Ike Quartey
    10. Mark Johnson

    1998

    1. Oscar De La Hoya
    2. Roy Jones Jr.
    3. Evander Holyfield
    4. Felix Trinidad
    5. Mark Johnson
    6. Shane Mosley
    7. Ricardo Lopez
    8. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    9. Naseem Hamed
    10. Johnny Tapia

    1999

    1. Roy Jones Jr.
    2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    3. Felix Trinidad
    4. Oscar De La Hoya
    5. Shane Mosley
    6. Mark Johnson
    7. Ricardo Lopez
    8. Erik Morales
    9. Bernard Hopkins
    10. Stevie Johnston

    2000

    1. Shane Mosley
    2. Felix Trinidad
    3. Roy Jones Jr.
    4. Oscar De La Hoya
    5. Diego Corrales
    6. Naseem Hamed
    7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    8. Lennox Lewis
    9. Erik Morales
    10. Bernard Hopkins

    2001

    1. Shane Mosley
    2. Bernard Hopkins
    3. Roy Jones Jr.
    4. Marco Antonio Barrera
    5. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    6. Felix Trinidad
    7. Oscar De La Hoya
    8. Ricardo Lopez
    9. Kostya Tszyu
    10. Erik Morales

    2002

    1. Bernard Hopkins
    2. Roy Jones Jr.
    3. Marco Antonio Barrera
    4. Vernon Forrest
    5. Oscar De La Hoya
    6. Kostya Tszyu
    7. Erik Morales
    8. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    9. Lennox Lewis
    10. Shane Mosley

    2003

    1. Roy Jones Jr.
    2. Bernard Hopkins
    3. Shane Mosley
    4. Oscar De La Hoya
    5. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    6. Manny Pacquiao
    7. Kostya Tszyu
    8. Erik Morales
    9. James Toney
    10. Antonio Tarver

    2004

    1. Bernard Hopkins
    2. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    3. Kostya Tszyu
    4. Ronald (Winky) Wright
    5. Manny Pacquiao
    6. Juan Manuel Marquez
    7. Marco Antonio Barrera
    8. Erik Morales
    9. Glen Johnson
    10. Antonio Tarver

    2005

    1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    2. Ronald (Winky) Wright
    3. Marco Antonio Barrera
    4. Ricky Hatton
    5. Manny Pacquiao
    6. Erik Morales
    7. Juan Manuel Marquez
    8. Rafael Marquez
    9. Jose Luis Castillo
    10. Zab Judah

    2006

    1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Ronald (Winky) Wright
    4. Jermain Taylor
    5. Bernard Hopkins
    6. Marco Antonio Barrera
    7. Rafael Marquez
    8. Ricky Hatton
    9. Jose Luis Castillo
    10. Joe Calzaghe

    2007

    Doug Fischer - Maxboxing.com
    1. Floyd Mayweather
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Joe Calzaghe
    4. Juan Manuel Marquez
    5. Bernard Hopkins
    6. Israel Vazquez/Rafael Marquez
    8. Miguel Cotto
    9. Ivan Calderon
    10. Winky Wright

    2008

    1. Manny Pacquiao
    2. Juan Manuel Marquez
    3. Joe Calzaghe
    4. Bernard Hopkins
    5. Israel Vazquez
    6. Antonio Margarito
    7. Rafael Marquez
    8. Miguel Cotto
    9. Ivan Calderon
    10. Ricky Hatton
     
  9. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    How about '87?
     
  10. Zopilote

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    Im not sure really, but im almost certain that he retired somewhere around early to mid '08.
     
  11. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Floyd would have kept it longer and probably still be number 1 if he never retired
     
  12. ciscobox

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    ^^ woulda shoulda coulda...

    he could've fought cotto, margo, shane, in ('07-'8.) and beat them all, but..
    he could've have fought a little longer, and become the fighter of the decade (big chance!), but..
    he could've just fought the asian midget (an easy fight!), and become #1 again, but..

    fantasy.. non sense.
     
  13. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    Pacquiao's status as P4P #1 has not been universally recognized at times since Floyd's return. Is there a particular list you consider more "official" than others? Many of the lists alternate between Pac and Mayweather depending on who fought most recently, which is also an indication of how meaningless these lists can be.
     
  14. Pax

    Pax Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and it'll all b history when pbf ktfo pac next year.
     
  15. RightHandLead17

    RightHandLead17 Active Member Full Member

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    Floyd Mayweather was a P4P fighter since his pro debut and he was in the top 10 just about every year of his career

    If Mayweather didnt retire for that 2 year gap Pacquiao wouldve never become p4p #1

    Its just like if Roy Jones wouldve has got KO'd Floyd wouldve never reached that p4p #1 status