Save your money on these biographies

Give me money back first.

And pay me to do your research for you. When I havent been able to do it myself Ive paid for people to do it for me. What do you want? Sources for his California fights? The Wheeling sources for his hospital stay after his fight with Klaus? Pittsburgh sources for the Klaus fight? Weigh in reports for McVea to prove he was incapable of making the MW limit? Sources for the Papke bout that disputed the decision? First hand sources from Montana for his fights there? Etc etc. Why dont you have these sources? If I do and you dont why are pretending to be the expert when Im not? If you already have all of these sources why dont you cite them and shut me up like Ive asked?

 

ok, fine, as soon as I get home I'll start citing articles, telegrams, letters, and other items in my collection that directly refute sections of your book which i will also quote from. that should shut you up and illustrate exactly which one of us is full of **** and which one of us can back up what he has written.

Just remember, when your little rag starts getting holes shot into it left and right, you asked for it and it was you who refused to post a single contradictory source for anything Ive stated. You cant and you wont.

 

Here is one just sitting on my laptop:

"Ketchel Had Nothing On Local Bear-Cat" March 24, 1910 Pittsburgh Leader

"Klaus and Ketchel Draw In Tame Six-Round Bout" March 24, 1910 Pittsburgh Post

"Fistic Fans Fooled By Fierce Frame-Up" March 24, 1910 Pittsburgh Press

For those three papers at least I have all the buildup for that fight as well which details Ketchels sorry condition, his wanting to back out of the fight, his refusal to make weight, etc.

I also have coverage of Ketchel's hospital stay in Wheeling afterwards although first hand sources from Wheeling are at my home.

Since you have all of those sources quote me what was said in the third paragraph of the Post and first of the Leader. No Ketchel nuthugger would want to post those paragraphs. I wont ask you to post the Press account because you can find that online. You limited your coverage of the Klaus fight, a fight between a current and future champion, to what? One, maybe two sentences... Go on, post your sources for that fight.

 

Dont tell me you "know"! Post what I asked. Prove it. Dont ask me to post information for you and then tell me after the fact you "know" If you "know" why was the only source you quoted in your book from Grand Rapids and much later than the actual fight???

 

The only reason you even know who Ketchel is is because he was a fighter and yet you dont "wanna read no silly fight reports"?? I guess that would explain the inaccuracy in his boxing career. But if youre such an expert on his family and personal life why did you barely cover any of that? Why only three pages of his life up to the age of 15 or 16? Why was all of that information co-opted from Fleischers book and no other sources? Why absolutely no personal information him between the time he arrived in Butte and the time he arrived in California? Boy you are a real scholar. What a comprehensive work youve put together on the man. You dont need me to bash your book. Just keep posting and you illustrate your ignorance more than I ever could.

 

Whatever, the next thing I post youll move the goal post again. You ask for something you dont have, I post it, and suddenly it wasnt what you wanted. You already have it, but you wont post it. How about the telegram he sent to Pete the Goat. You quote that in your book. Post the full text of it if you didnt simply pull that one quote for Harry Shaffers site. I post facts on a BOXER and you say you arent interested in BOXING facts. Fine then go post your **** on ancestry.com and stop coming to a boxing forum, dont ***** and complain when I tell BOXING enthusiasts not to purchase a biography of a BOXER by a guy who isnt interested in the BOXING aspects of his career and as such has a ton of BOXING mistakes in the book. Why call me out on Ketchel's family when you write a book on Ketchel that ignores much of his family life and then when I complain about that fact you act like you have that information you just decided not to put it in your book? Why didnt you just write about that stuff if that was your interest? Why focus on the boxing to your detriment and include next to nothing of his personal life which you say is what you have so much information on? I dont get it. I still dont see where my criticisms are not valid?