Micheal Nunn vs Calzaghe who wins?

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    :patsch You still havent answered the question. I know what H2H means but only gave you what it is short for. You are just looking to duck questions.
    Notice after you brought up form lines, I asked you another question which you avoided
     
  2. bailey

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    Calzaghe also beat Eubank, Americas other best SMW of the decade B Mitchell who is at a similar level to Ward now, who gets so much praise.
    Calzaghe beat Hopkins sandwiched between Hopkins best wins of Tarver, Wright and Pavlik in a new weight division, in America with 3 American judges and Cortez as ref. Thats testing yourself. If Hopkins is so past it why do people want to see Hopkins face the Ring LHW champ again?
    You note Nunn fighting Barkley but forget to note Barkley was coming off a loss from an old LW or that Barkley had been beaten on the way up. Kessler had a better record and been more successful in more world title fights at the time Nunn beat Barkley, yet you call Barkley coming off a loss as a big testing win when Nunn only scored a MW.
    Calzaghe beat many top 10 SMWs and world class SMWs. Who was Calzaghe meant to fight after he cleaned out the SMWs? Hopkins was The Ring champ and regarded as the best and Calzaghe beat him, Dawson would have been given the Lacy title. As for Jones he was Ring #6 LHW and was so shot that many picked Jones to win. Jones was up on a poll on Bunces boxing show with 60% picking for Jones along with many experts.

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    Hindsight is one thing, but look at the facts, the Ring LHW champ beat The Ring #6 in a fight many expected him to lose. It was a big fight at the time but now Calzaghe clearly won, they say Jones was shot

    Bernard Hopkins- Former two-division world champion
    Fought Joe Calzaghe on April 19, 2008 and lost by split decision
    Fought Roy Jones Jr. May 22, 1993 and lost by unanimous decision

    “Jones by unanimous decision based on his speed and power.”

    Lennox Lewis- Former heavyweight champion

    "Jones has unbelievable speed and Calzaghe's never fought anyone like him. Jones likes it when his opponent comes to him and unfortunately for Calzaghe, that's exactly what he does; comes to his opponent and is right in their face. I pick Jones on points, but I think it’ll be a very close fight."

    Jeff Lacy- Former IBF super middleweight champion

    Fought Joe Calzaghe March 4, 2006 and lost by unanimous decision

    “It’s going to be a hard fight to pick. If Jones doesn't stay on the ropes and give Calzaghe angles and lots of movement I'm going to go with Jones by decision. Roy can't stay on the ropes and give Joe the chance to throw his slapping punches. This is a great fight for Jones to win and setup a big money fight again with Hopkins!”

    Glen Johnson- Former IBF, IBO and Ring Magazine light heavyweight champion

    Fought Roy Jones September 25, 2004 and won by KO in 9th round

    “Roy Jones will win. I believe Calzaghe fights an amateur style. He throws a lot of slappy punches. Roy throws much more meaningful punches. In general, Calzaghe will throw more punches than Roy, but Roy’s will be harder hitting. Unless the judges are blind, they will see that the harder punches make Jones the winner. They should see that Roy Jones’ hard-hitting punches make the difference.”

    Vernon Forrest - WBC welterweight champion

    “Roy Jones is still the best fighter in my era and still arguably one of the best fighters period. Roy with his speed can match Calzaghe, and he has power. So the power and speed is with Roy. Roy by decision.”

    Paulie Malignaggi- Former IBF junior welterweight champion.

    "It's a hard fight to pick. I thought Calzaghe at first because, but maybe he's too much for Roy right now. But based on what Joe just said about the three Brits beating the three Americans (Calzaghe-Jones, Hatton-Malignaggi, Haye-Barrett), I'm pulling Roy home.....Jones by decision."

    Winky Wright- Former world junior middleweight champion

    “I think Roy is going to win. I think that his punches are going to be sharper than Calzaghe’s and I think that Roy is a harder puncher. I think it might go all 12 rounds, but if somebody gets stopped I think its Calzaghe late in the fight.”

    Dan Rafael- ESPN.com

    “Although Calzaghe is the favorite, I think Jones' style and speed -- he's still fast -- are going to give him problems. I think it will be a tough, close fight but I'm going with the upset special. I like Jones to pull it out on a close decision.”

    Gordon Marino- Wall Street Journal

    ”Jones over Calzaghe. This is a fascinating fight. Jones is still quick and with his awkward style and dangerous punching power is able to freeze very active opponents like Calzaghe. I'm picking Jones by a decision.”

    Tim Smith- New York Daily News

    “Roy Jones has good power and I think that will offset the volume of punches that Calzaghe throws. Calzaghe has a good chin so I don't see him getting knocked out. I like Jones in a decision.”

    Franklin McNeil- Newark Star Ledger

    “On paper, Calzaghe should not have much difficulty getting by Jones. Calzaghe is a southpaw, and Jones has had his most difficult outings against non-orthodox fighters. And though each man has quite a few miles on his tires, Jones has logged a bit more. The physical edge goes to Calzaghe, but stylistically Jones’ constant movement could prove to be beneficial. If Jones can control the pace, make Calzaghe miss, score with counter shots and his stamina holds up, he will win. Jones wins by decision.”

    Bobby Cassidy- Newsday

    “I like Roy Jones in the 11th round TKO. Calzaghe does not have the power to keep Jones honest. I think by the second half of the fight Jones will be picking him a part. Calzaghe looked so good against Hopkins because Hopkins didn't have the firepower to slow him down. But Jones has both speed and power. In other fights, Calzaghe has been able to adjust to one of those assets; he won't be able to adjust to both, especially from a fighter like Jones.”



    There are were more predictions for Jones against Calzaghe, that picked Jones as a winner.
    Although there were many that also picked for Calzaghe the poll on Bunces boxing was said 60% in favour of Jones.
     
  3. Kittikasem

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    I'm not ducking anything, because I'm not interested in who would win between Nunn and Calzaghe, and I'm not much interested in the discussion about it. All I wanted to do was point out that your argument is irrelevant, and is not how h2h arguments are made. I made my point, it was all present and correct, and I'm over it. Anyone who regularly has h2h discussions on this website can see that you do not understand how to have a proper h2h discussion, because you don't understand what h2h means. :good
     
  4. bailey

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    Complete and utter duck :lol:.
     
  5. Kittikasem

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    I'm fine with that. I don't care about Nunn vs Calzaghe at all, what I was interested in was your irrelevant, inaccurate, ill-informed and rather idiotic style of argument. I have pointed that out, and now I am done pointing it out. :good
     
  6. bailey

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    No you havent. You have claimed I dont understand something, to avoid the points I made, then said you have pointed that out, but havent said a thing to point it out. Are you building for another duck
     
  7. techks

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    An old and very faded Eubank.

    Also old. BTW, Wright was NOT one of Hopkins' top best wins. Tarver, Pavlik, and Trinidad are. Hopkins was past it he just keeps himself in shape. You've seen RJJ 2 and Pascal, his punch resisitance is down. JC needed a gift anyways. No sane person scores that fight to Calzaghe.


    That "old LW" happened to be Duran who I don't know, beat prime SRL and gave Hagler a hard fight AFTER LW. Barkley had a win over Hearns and still gave a good account of himself against Nunn. Even against Duran he gave a good account of himself. Nunn won that fight clearly. Look at the fight, not just boxrec.

    Names like Manfredo and Sheika aren't impressive.


    Excuses. Dawson still had a title and that win would be better than a fossil Jones.


    People bet with their hearts, not their minds. Jones was clearly faded and didn't have his legs anymore even 3 years before he fought Calzaghe against Tarver and the fight before that against Johnson. Oh and rankings shouldn't be taken too seriously. Jones last fight before Calzaghe was against a very fat & faded Trinidad which I don't even count.
     
  8. Kid Presentable

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    Calzaghe would have knocked him out by duckage!! i love these people agrguing against Nunn blatently have never seen him box. Joe had some bad nights too his performances were eclectic at best. Bika, Robin Reid, Hopkins and Jones were all terrible if you ask me
     
  9. Kid Presentable

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    this is how Chin checkers answer questions.

    How would Joe deal with Nunns range, southpaw jab and better natural boxing ability.

    ANSWER. hES 46 AND 0.

    by that logic neither Joe or Sven Ottke could lose even if they were fighting theyd both die in the ring
     
  10. techks

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    Jones? That was a pretty dominant performance albeit against a very,very old and faded fossilized verson of RJJ. I hated his slappy style against Jones but he won that in a one-sided fashion.
     
  11. Kittikasem

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    Exactly my point. These guys don't understand how to evaluate an h2h, how to consider how two guys would match up physically and stylistically.

    Example:

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    You think I'm exaggerating now, but take a read back through previous pages!! :nut
     
  12. bailey

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  13. bailey

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    Do you think Calzaghe would have lost to a fighter of S Littles quality, is what I noted. Well do you :nut?
     
  14. Kittikasem

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    :lol: Still not getting it. Still not getting it at all!!
     
  15. bailey

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    Physically Calzaghe was the bigger man.
    Stylistically Calzaghe would be too fast and aggressive.
    Still do you think Calzaghe would lose to someone of the quality of S Littles? Ducking those questions still