Hype Job or Real Deal

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  1. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hatton: Real deal.
    Cotto: Real deal.
    Rockgloves: Hype job.
    Berto: Has ability, but has been carefully guided and was fortunate to not have to fight Mosley.
    Angulo: Decent.
    Alvarez: Good ability, not "there" yet.
    Cintron: Hype job. Bad mentally.
    Pavlik: Real deal.
    Pacquiao: All-time elite.
    Floyd: All-time elite.
    Kirkland: The book's not out on him yet. Questionable defense.
    Chavez Jr.: Hype job.
    Bradley: Real deal.
    Khan: Hype job. Until he fights a live body with a punch, he'll remain that way. Incredibly carefully managed since getting shattered all over the canvas.
    Lopez: Hype job. Decent.
    Gamboa: Real deal. Terrible defense.
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I see a pattern here...

    How is Angulo the "real deal" when he was beaten by the guy you called a hype job? Than as much as Alvarez gets hit to be a pure boxer? Khan is the real deal, but never avenged his KO? Come on man.

    I agree with some of them, but you seemed pretty biased.
     
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    :good
     
  4. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    dmille We knew, about Tszyu, before you. Full Member

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    Has any metioned Tyson Fury yet? AKA the British Tye Fields...
     
  6. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    Just a look back at my list before my boxing iq sky rocketed lol
     
  7. PH|LLA

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    Cintron beat Angulo. Yet he is the real deal and Cintron is a hype job. Hatton is a hype job but he went a long way and only lost to FLoyd and PAc, yet Cotto is the real deal. Berto is a hype job who lost by a few points to Ortiz but again.. Angulo is not a hype job despite losing to Cintron. hmmm. And Khan who got KTFO by Presscot... he is the real deal.
     
  8. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    Its an old thread and bump ed it to show I was wrong on some and right on some, I take back the hatton one and still belive angulo whoops cintron on a rematch......


    Plus I no longer belive in calling contenders hype jobs
     
  9. MrPR

    MrPR Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Felix Sturm doesnt get critisized enough....

    I believe hes a protected hype job
     
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    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    Good addition:good
     
  11. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    On this forum, anyone who loses a fight, especially if they are blown out or something is a hype job.
     
  12. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    Its an old thread................i will m make a new one with the exact same fighters and list the strengths of my "real deals" and explain the flaws of the"hype jobs" .....again, I don't feel their hype jobs just flaws that can be fixed with the right attitude and training.
     
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    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are people on this forum who if Floyd Mayweather jr, with all that he has accomplished, loses he would be labeled a fraud and hype job.
     
  14. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    haha I know....... And those people think he had only fight in the welter division, completely disregarding the rest of his career... I was a floyd hater myself but it was just based on bull**** and I didn't want to see the talent attributes and facts to state an honest opinion.
     
  15. anarci

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    :lol::lol: I love that comment on Kermit the Frog ........ I have had the same on ideas on most of these guys too for a while now.. Good call !

    Except for FLoyd..He will beat anyone at 147 or 154. He just has to get off his ass and fight Pac, i blame him May for that but feel he wil beat Pac.

    As for Margarito i feel the handwrap deal is overblown .. Been watching him since he was a prospect, and his punches have always had that affect on opponents and i highly doubt he was packing since he was 18.. Even his sparrng partners say he is a big puncher.