The evolution of Victor Ortiz

Brook isn't a Warren fighter, and anyway it's like the old Witter-Hatton thing. Do you really want to give someone a fight who has tried to make their name off your back? :think

 

Oh yeah they fell out or something, if it will sell and Khan agree's to then why not, plus it could be another home fight.

But then again with all thats happened with him and Sky maybe we wont see Khan over here for some time.

 

Darni, stop talking. When it comes to height anyway, you have no f'n clue mate :good

I think you're a nice lad, which is the only reason you're being spared more expletives.

 

You will be disappointed that I re-considered my post...only because Darni is such a polite and well-intentioned poster, I'm not losing my touch :deal

 

It's nothing like the Witter/Hatton 'thing'. Khan/Brook have never really been at the same level let alone the same weight class. Hatton had years where he should have fought Witter. He looked a right clown.

 

Yeah I know mate. A unification made a lot of sense. Was the only example I could think of.

 

FFS Berto is ****, athlete not a boxer not even a fighter. ****ing ****.

 

Thank you Flea for sparing me :good

But I still stand by my views that in a Khan 5'10 vs Bradley 5'6, reach from Khan's side will be a key factor mainly because Khan cant fight on the inside and will want to score on Bradley from distance. Where as Bradley will try to close the distance, thats his only chance of beating Khan, no way Bradley beats Khan from distance even more in Bradley's case as he likes throwing hooks which to land on Khan he needs to get close, eg slip Khan's jab and work his way in. On Khan's side he has to make sure the jab is crisp and fast and on point all night.

Anyway you guys can say what you want, come July 23rd if they fight we will know who is right.

 

if khan wins it wont be just because of height.

 

Of course it wont, but i feel he has to make his height count, he has to impose his jab and set up a problem for Bradley so when he does get close, mess his work, hold on, tie up, do anything but dont let him land too many shots. Let ref reset and pump that jab, follow up with some combos and move off and again and again. He could in the end have Bradley jumping in and making mistakes leaving himself open for uppercuts.

 

why are folks talking about amir facing ortiz @ 147..easy!
Ortiz (on the 16th) would **** the boy..

I truly doubt Amir pulls it off against Timmy.

Ortiz certainly made his golden folks prouder that night..

 

Khan CAN be beaten from range. He's not this ultra skilled outboxer people are making out. Hardly Carlos Monzon is he? He makes a lot of mistakes in there, even on the outside. Maidana tagged him with long looping right hands.

You can beat robotic fighters like Khan from the outside with movement. His speed makes it tricky, but his sense of spacing is not top notch. It's fairly poor, so is his ring IQ. Somebody with exceptional movement Andre Ward or Bernard Hopkins style would have his footwork and balance all out of sync and could easily take advantage of his mistakes. Bradley may actually be capable of this, I'm not sure. I've never seen him fight a whole fight like that, only brief glimpses. But he won't do it anyway as there is no real need to, Khan is very weak on the inside and thats Bradley's favourite game.

 

Glad to see everyone is coming round to what I've been saying for yonks :yep

 

Khan is not a good on the outside yet thoughout his career he has mostly done this to outscore fighters, we know he has a weak inside game.

Just because Maidana landed a few looping hooks from range does make his outdside range poor, what about the times he slipped or made him miss.

We are yet to see someone outbox Khan and stop him outscoring, Prescott KO him, but yet to see someone outbox him because he has won rest of his fights using speed, distance, and movement.

If Bradley is going to be that guy, well I can't wait, this is going to be fun.