if you are Juan Manuel Marquez, what would you do?

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    i would not complain if he fights humberto soto also. but the best bet still is go for a 4th title either against pac at welter or against any title holder at 140.
     
  2. Doc

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    I would have some monkeys but **** Puga....



    But after I am done lauging at that.


    I would Sign with GBP to **** over ARUM and let them fight Cintron/Margo/Cotto/. Which these fights are so ******ed he is even thinking of taking fights at 140 for Judah and Bradley....

    JMM makes more $$ adds to his legacy substantially staying with GBP... FACT

    THE PAC FIGHT WILL ALWAYS BE THERE....

    He could get PAC at the end of 2012 or summer... PAC AIN"T going anywhere he has money to make for his master.
     
  3. saul_ir34

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    Wouldnt you ask for more money if you were the champ in the weight class fighting a guy who everyone was telling you you beat along with yourself thinking you won. For gods sakes look at their faces after that first fight. Pac was all messed up while JMM just had a bloody nose.
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

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    if you are jmm, you would not waste anytime against any poster.

    i don't get the making more dollar fight since a fight with pacquiao would secure jmm at least $4M never counting the PPV. how much would he get fighting judah? maybe with khan, he can get at least $2M but that's just it.

    also i don't get the legacy part when a victory over pacquiao would greatly improve jmm's legacy over any victory over the 140 titlist.
     
  5. saul_ir34

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    Actually to me it looks like JMM has more options on viable fights than Pac at the moment. Arum already has fed the fans crap with Clottey, Margo and now Shane. Who else is he gonna throw at PAc since he wont deal with anyone else?
    Cintron? Cotto rematch? Clottey rematch? Margo rematch?
    Martinez? Fat chance.

    Who is Pac gonna fight? Bradley is looking like he is heading to GBP. Berto lost some steam but looked bad enough to get the Pac fight i guess.

    In the meantime JMM can make fights with Guerrero, Judah, Morales, Khan and Bradley and they would be meaningful fights which get him good money.
     
  6. puga_ni_nana

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    pac could have won that fight if the one judge had scored it correctly. jmm was bargaining with his belts but we all know that he barely kept it with that draw. pac had accepted the rematch and jmm felt there was no need since he won. so what happens next? pac proceeded to get some good deals while jmm fought for peanuts. hardly a wise decision if you look at it now.
     
  7. puga_ni_nana

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    well jmm could exercise this to bargain more on his behalf for a pac fight. that is if he really intends to fight pac next.
     
  8. Doc

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    Well he got 1 Million for Diaz 2... 1.4 Million for Kats... Patterns show at least 2M for each fight next against GUerrero and More for JUDAH + PPV... THose are just 2.

    He then becomes the 140 Champ after winning against Judah which would be hard but definitely doable.


    After the can defens against MORALES/MAIDANA WINNER.... Another PPV fight... another 2M + PPV and 3 more fights to add to his resume.

    Then 2012 HE could look at PAC since JMM has aged well... and who knows if pac will. PAC FIGHT WILL ALWAYS BE THERE.
     
  9. Doc

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    You could argue that.. but it could also be argued that the Ref didn't take a point from PAC for hitting marquez while down which usually always happens. Nullifying that.

    Also the only fight that pac won, he won by Split Decision 1 point. ARUM's $$ at work which so many had MArquez winning even his own people. BUt all that isbehind us and history will defintely remember this.. it is not as easy as *******s put it "PAC beat Marquez twice" history will not remember those 2 fights like that.
     
  10. Vitor Belfort

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    Fight pacquiao...he would get a good payday against judah and morales but beating them means nothing now. Morales is way past his prime and judah's best days are behind him.

    Marquez has nothing to lose against pacquiao. If he looks bad and get knockout then at least he gets a pass for his age and going up against the best fighter in the world. If he wins then even better, he avenge his loss and get paid a shitload of money for it.
     
  11. puga_ni_nana

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    that will be 3 fights worth against fighting pac just one time. and if he ever beat pac, i'm sure there would be a rematch and he would earn more by beating the top draw. also how can you explain that it would be better for jmm's legacy if he beats judah and khan instead of beating pacquiao?
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

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    well that loss and draw of marquez to pacquiao still marks as one of his best accomplishments. yes even against his victory over barrera, diaz or casamayor. so fighting pacquiao now would be a win-win situation for him. if he lose, he is old and is fighting a welter pac. if he wins, he is the new p4p#1 and he earns at least a cool $5M a fight.
     
  13. Slacker

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    I like that option. :thumbsup

    I could see JMM beating either of those guys, or Zab.
     
  14. Doc

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    Pac already arguably beat PAC. The only fight he lost was by one point in a controversial split decision. He already has pac in his resume and history will remember the epic 2 fights and the controversy of who won them.

    *******, please remember PAC is not going anywhere. He will always be here.. as he is masters puppet... 2012 might be a good time to face PAC.... Also if JMM loses any of his fights a PAC fight will be more easily doable as pac likes em Damaged not coming off of wins. So don't be mad youll get that last fight sooner or later.

    -Becoming the 140 JR WW champion of the world against Judah.
    -First Mexican that would do this, and he would have done it in a legitimate way.
    -Another defense against a young lion in Guerrero who actually has the tools to make it an interesting fight. Yeah he doesn't carry the name of PAC's recent opponents but he is a live dog.. and a Live opponents fresh closing in on his prime.
    -Morales/Maidana winner It would be great if Morales won to settle the last fight in the fab four that wasn't made... or he could face Maidana for another 140 title.

    To many options for JMM...

    PAC WILL always be there. He ain't going anywhere any time soon.


    PLUS BY JMM Doing this TR Might IMPLODE COTTO? MARGO? CINTRON? :lol: CLOTTEY REMATCH (the only man to survive :hey)
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

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    so basically jmm will have to repeat fighting the likes of jandaeng, john and jaca before when he has the option to fight pacquiao now? are you following nacho's decision back then when jmm has the opportunity to fight pac and passed it up? why settle for 2nd raters when you can fight the best?