you can gloat on ortiz for all i care. so you really think that the TS has a good point in this thread? remember that pac even advised ortiz before his berto fight. http://www.opposingviews.com/i/wise-move-victor-ortiz-listens-to-manny-pacquiao
Woa!!! i never said Ortiz beats Pac or that they should even fight. Ortiz had one good performance. Lets not go overboard. Pac is a fighter on a level higher than Ortiz. Ortiz might one day get there but its definitely not now. Maybe in a year he will be ready. I do not think Pac is running scared. It would be incredibly stupid to say that.
Pfftt. I dont care how many champs you have right now. **** you! I enjoy boxing and you can enjoy being a bitter pac hater for all i care amigo Ortiz can beat Pac? Go eat a dick.
Now do you honestly believe anyone of those Tomato Cans could beat Money May? Lets be real. This is what I mean about dumb so-called fight fans that probably just started following boxing since Pac became popular. Because of their newness to boxing, they think Pac is the greatest fighter ever, even though he was knocked out twice in his career. Cotto, Clottey and Margarito, thinking they would even get close to beating Mayweather really shows your ignorance.
Why is Pac fighting Mosley, ask yourself that question. After Mosley beat Cheato, Pac was afraid of him. Freddie the Joke even said that Mosley was too good. Now that Money May made Mosley look 99 years old, Pac wants to fight him. Pac did the same thing with Cotto, after he saw Cotto destroyed by Cheato and beaten up by Clottey, then he fought Cotto. Once again, Pac fights Mayweather's left overs and other washed up severely shot fighters.
Isn't Cotto a current world champion? Only a fool would say he is shot or washed up. Clottey is not great but he is hard to look good against. Margo stylewise was tailor made for Pac althoug Margs weight advantage, 17 pounds on fight night made it interesting. To me Pacs biggest wins were Barrera back in 2003, that was an upset win over a top p4p and Cotto who is a skilled fighter and bigger. Chartchai Saskatul back in 1998 was a big upset win for Pac to but who remembers that today?
That's the problem bro, not to call u out but no one want's to "imagine" what floyd would do against those dudes, we actually wanna SEE IT HAPPEN. Way to much "fantasy" boxing when it comes to floyd, especially at 147. Just imagine this or what do u think that, how about the guy steps in the ring with some of these guys so we can know for sure. Is that too much to ask?
ITs gotta be painful knowing your country is inferior to ours in boxing. Thats why you have to praise your 2 fighters non stop. I would probably do the same thing if i was you. Its ok I understand.
and it's gotta be painful that one man (pac) has single handedly beat many of your country's best boxers
It bothers me a little but then i look at the dozens of champs we have and i look at the 2 you have and that makes me smile :yep. And come on a past it Morales gave him hell and beat him once and JMM has beat him twice in my book and alot of peoples. Its good enough for me. Thats why i dont care much for a 3rd match. JMM can move on and do other things.
Roach wasn't serious about PAC vs Khan happening. That much is clear. Tim is a decent option if he's willing to go up to 147 again but let's be real...he's doens't really have a chance. PAC's options are limited b/c from 140 to 147 there really aren't real threats b/c Floyd is not stepping up. Ortiz is about as good a option as Tim....the win over Berto was HUGE but that loss to Midana still lingers. Ortiz needs a little consistancy to build his name a a real viable option for manny or Floyd. If you are new to boxing then saying PAC is running scared might be understandable, but if you aren't then there's no excuse to say something so off base. Now.....if you say Floyd is running scared....there's some validity to that remark based on how he's acted in trying to get the PAC vs Floyd fight to happen. I'm not sure but I wouldn't call MAB, EM, DLH, Hatton, Shane, Marg or JMM, Feather fisted or having a glass jaw.
Pacquiao bothers you a lot. I don't think Filipinos really give a rat's ass how many more champions Mexico has more than the Philippines.