Hitman v Pacman

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by srb31079, Dec 18, 2007.

  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As I recall, you mostly watch fighters on youtube (so not in slow motion). And I also recall that you have admittedly made your predictions, fantasy or otherwise, after watching fighters only once or twice.

    I am curious as to what fights on DVD you have of Hatton and what weaknesses you see that Pacquiao can exploit given his obvious disadvantages.
     
  2. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Vegetables? Novice?

    Is that your justification for being a lieing *******? :lol: :rofl
    :hi:
     
  3. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I got 2 DVD recorders, I record all high profile fights & watch it again before I make predictions in a fight. I have all Pac fights you can find, I have all recent Hatton fights on HBO. Is that answers your question???
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, it doesn't. This is contradictory information. If anyone searches your posts, you frequently mention that you are looking on youtube for the majority of your info. Now it's suddenly DVD's? Not to mention, many of the fights you predict are not shown on TV, so you are most likely not doing this with those fights.

    I am curious to see what you feel Pacquiao can exploit in a fight with Hatton, despite his obvious disadvantages going into the fight.
     
  5. 1punch1nder

    1punch1nder **Bam Bam** Full Member

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    :smoke :smoke :smoke
     
  6. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Trying to run away my *****? :D

    :nono Ah ah ah . . . nopes . . . no way.

    What's your source for that $1.3 mIL STORY? Ring? :rofl

    :hi:
     
  7. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Come to your master my ***** . . . you'll be eating a lot more of your own ****. :yep :hi:
     
  8. Chert

    Chert Ringside Potato Full Member

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    pac can probably exploit hatton's lack of hand/foot speed, his lack of movement. hatton is also very hittable since his defense may just be even worst than pac. in the skills dept., i would even say that the pac of today has better skills compared to hatton and is the more adaptive in fight situations. pac also has the much better trainer/strategist in roach compared to hatton's graham.

    if pac can stay in the outside with his hand/foot speed, movement and use his longer reach, he may be able to make this fight very competitive.
     
  9. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Ripping or eating up your own shits. :rofl

    dictionary? job? Nice try boii . . . you are still a lieing bastrd. . . nothing's changed.

    :hi: :lol:
     
  10. PacDbest

    PacDbest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I recommend youtube for those of you who can't afford DVD recorders, those who can't afford HBO, SHO, ESPN Classic & Versus subscription. Those not available in these shows I watch it in youtube. Those Pinoy Boxings, youtube is my choice. KG don't twist the truth, I already mentioned I record almost all boxing on TV.

    Hatton Attacks not by Jab but by Throwing a Left hook & then Grab & do his wrestling. He don't have a Jab coz it's useless. he's arm's too short. Once Pac land that Straight left while Hatton's is going in, either it ends there or Hatton would be in retreat & discourage to get in.
     
  11. DobyZhee

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    Its simple..Hatton by hugging KO. It doesn't matter what gloves Pac has..at 140, the gloves are different.
     
  12. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    Fantasizing this match-up is one way to sooth the pain for the people that picked Hatton over Mayweather.
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have no need to twist the truth when I can simply exploit what you have previously said. You cannot record most of the fighters you make predictions on because they are not on TV. This is a simple fact. Not to mention, you have no idea how much others can or cannot afford, and therefore would never have made such a suggestion under those circumstances. On the contrary, you have said numerous times how you have gone to youtube to watch fighters and use it as a tool. On to more pressing matters.

    Your analysis falls short, as does Chert's. Let me quote his as well as yours.

    Hatton has no lack of hand and footspeed. As a matter of fact, his footspeed and ability to close the gap quickly was one of the reasons he was competitive early on with Mayweather. Others will confirm this, as Hatton is actually quite quick on his feet. His downfall is his ability to infight effectively when being smothered, which is what PBF did to him, something Pacquiao has shown no proficiency at. Pacquiao has never shown the ability to box from the outside for any length of time, as he usually comes straight forward, has little side movement and thus will be in close quarters with Hatton. He relies on his explosiveness to push others back and give him the room he needs to operate. I don't know why some feel the need to add extra qualities to Pacquiao's arsenal that do not exist. He is a come forward fighter who cannot fight at all off his back foot. His power has already started to diminish as he has gone up, and at 140, Hatton will see his punches coming and certainly smother him.

    PacD has wrongly surmised that if PBF can hurt Hatton (believing PBF to be "featherfisted", his 25 ko's somehow earning him that reputation in his eyes) that an unproven Pacquiao at 140lbs can, though he has never fought over 130. This is a horrible leap in logic, as PBF has good power against fighters his own size AND didn't hurt Hatton with his power, but his speed and accuracy and TIMING. He hurt Hatton with a punch he didn't see coming, something Pacquiao is not going to do since he doesn't sidestep and counter punch in that manner. Pacquaio also has not shown the skill to time someone coming forward with anything resembling what Mayweather was doing, his punches coming straight down the pipe. It's silly to suddenly think that Hatton has a soft chin, when he fought Castillo and most notably Kostya Tszyu, who even past his prime, hit harder than Pacquiao, and couldn't stop Hatton from coming forward. Power is the last thing to go mind you, so even if KT was past it, he still certainly hit hard.

    Now onto the silly notion that Hatton's short arms will somehow aid Pacquiao. Hatton was unbeaten before facing Mayweather. In nearly every fight he has had, (all that I can find) he was at a disadvantage in reach. It does not hinder him because of his style. Pacquiao being the smaller man will be at a serious disadvantage against this style. Mayweather exploited it with skills that Pacquiao doesn't possess. Hatton's lack of a jab is not a hinderance in his style when facing someone like Pacquiao, but when facing someone who moves around the ring. It's not relevant here, whether you believe it or not. And Pacquiao gets hit as much as Hatton does. This will come down to who can take more punishment, because both will dish it out. Pacquaio will wilt very fast when he realizes that the strength disparity and that he will not be able to get his shots off against Hatton like he wishes. He does not set up his shots like Mayweather.

    PacD, you need to learn to analyze styles instead of just physical attributes. And stop using that template of whomever fights the most like Pacquiao (Ie , Power and speed, with good straight punches) is going to win. This led to your misreading of the Soto-Guzman fight. Styles change things, not to mention, you are merely guessing at Pacquaio's ability at 140, and taking the word of his trainer on an exxageration of his power....
     
  14. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    And for the PAC haters...


    Too much strength disparity here. And with that said Hatton by Hugging KO... also breaking pac's arm in the process. :yep
     
  15. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't believe it's "haters" who keep pushing this fight onto the forum, or bringing it up.