Andre Ward debuts in Ring Magazine Top 10 Pound4Pound

No anyone that saw and scored that fight knew Kotelnik should of won easily, Froch nearly got knocked out that's news to me. :rofl:roflatsch

 

interesting, who should have he been fighting then since he beat everyone else?

 

The vast majority of folks who scored Froch vs Dirrell for Dirrell. 60% of the Brit forum infact.

Post both your scorecard, I'll show you where you are wrong.

 

Any one of the top welterweights would have destroyed him. He barely beat Collazo.

 

Froch should be in the top ten easy, look at the fighters hes faced, says enough

 

He was an ok Euro-level champ like Kessler.

 

thats not bad since euro level is above american level nowadays

 

hatton wasnt a welterwight you inbred ****, thats like saying every ****ing decent hw will beat cunningham/huck etc, so they ****inhg should they are a weight class above, hatton had arms like a ****ing t-rex

 

you dont win a wbc title on the run

 

3. Martinez
4. Donaire
5. JMM
6. W. Klitschko
7. Bradley
8. Segura
9. Ward
10. V. Klitschko
11. Pongsaklek
12. Cotto

Big shake up with Lopez falling out.

As far as how it will be affected soon: Pacquiao will be the #1 with a dominant performance over Mosley. Ward vs. Abraham will simply solidify his positioning (Ward will be much like Donaire; those who doubt his recognition will simply have to admit they were wrong). Winner of Pascal vs. Hopkins will have to be in the top 10. An impressive victory for Froch over Johnson will demand P4P merit too. All that by June 4th, exciting...

 

Name top 10 European fighters then name your top 10 American. American easily come out on top. Who does Europe have on he level of a Mayweather, Hopkins, or Donaire? Thats just American. Lets not even get into Canada, Cuba, Puerto Rico and Mexico. Then its total shut out lol.

 

donaire is phillipino

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Mayweather started his career at super featherweight. Hopkins middleweight. Pacquiao flyweight.

What you're really saying is he wasnt good enough to fight at welterweight.

 

Donaire was raised an trained in America, fought for America in the olympic trials and amatuers.

Even if you take out Donaire we still destroy you. Besides the Klitsckos I cant even think of a european who is pound for pound worthy.

 

donaire was born in the phillipines and said ''i am a phillipino fighter, i fight for the phillipino people''

bute


mayweather - who shouldnt even be in the top 10 p4p anymore is probably the only us fighter in the top 10 p4p, bradley maybe but he'll be beat by khan soon