If you were training boxers?

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  1. TIGEREDGE

    TIGEREDGE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    which ATG/Past boxers would you ask your fighters to study copy.

    A couple of mine would be:

    Donald Curry
    Hagler (when he settle on one stance)
    Arguello

    BOXERS NOT TO COPY

    Ali
    NAz
    Leonard
    Hearns
     
  2. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Bernard Hopkins
    Harold Johnson
    Barney Ross
    Alexis Arguello
     
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    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Obviously someone like arguello or joe louis are great textbook template of what a great boxer looks like but I believe its horses for courses.

    I wouldnt ask a stumpy, strong clumsy kid to study a text book boxer I'd want him to study gene fulmer, a world class figter who found a way to use his strengths, break rythem, cover up and when to pull the trigger. Likewise I wouldnt ask a long limbed, athletic, co-ordinated kid with great balance to study marciano, because he would be beter off studying thomas hearns.
     
  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It very much depends. Most of the the great techicians pulled off things that a normal kid shouldn't try in the gym, at least not until he's reached a high level. A more pedestrian fighter like Pavlik is probably a more fruitful model in many ways than a master like Hopkins.

    Trinidad and DLH are good example of quality fighters that didn't really do the outrageous things but rather did very well with more basic fundamentals. You don't want a new guy standing in the corner and trying to counter off a shoulder roll á la Toney, Hopkins, PBF - no matter how technically superbly they execute it. Similarily, I wouldn't show McCallum-Jackson in order to show my guy how to deal with a huge banger, not if his head movement and anticipation wasn't something truly special.
     
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    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    :goodaint that the truth!

    I do think a kid who is tall for his weight needs to study long range skills and just as crucial for a kid short for his weight to study how to get inside.
     
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    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, I think a guy like Chuvalo could make good study for the right fighter. George really made the most of what he had.
     
  7. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Rocky Marciano is the perfect fighter to study in all respects.
     
  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think that's a very strange grouping. Leonard, Hearns and Ali did many things that I would gladly have the guy I trained try and copy. They did some things wrong that they got away with (most of the time), but that didn't mean they didn't do a lot of things right.

    Naseem, on the other hand, only does things I wouldn't want my adepts to do.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    It depends on their style/height/physical strengths/weaknesses
     
  10. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Depends on style.

    Great craft has a thousand shades.
     
  11. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It depends on the size, athletic abillites, mind set, etc,etc of my boxer.
    I do think that Joe Louis is a good place to start.
     
  12. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Ricardo Lopez for technique and punch form.

    Roberto Duran for mixing offense and defense.

    Miguel Canto for footwork.
     
  13. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it depends on the on i am training how he matches with the style.
    but bernard hopkins, mike tyson (to some extent), joe louis, rocky marciano and jack dempsey