Why Couldnt Marquez Do The Same Thing Pac Has Done?

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  1. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    no it is not comparable.

    Ali is a better boxer than norton.

    Marquez is a better boxer than Pac.:deal

    Pac accomplishments however outweigh marquez accomplishments.

    Still doesn't change the fact who the better boxer is.
     
  2. Emeritus

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    Its true, we all know Pac Man has WAY more power, is faster. We can agree on that right?

    So answer me this what does Marquez do better than Pac which enable him to run him so close on two occassions?

    He is the better boxer, he has better timing! He throws better combinations, he has ALWAYS been a two handed fighter!

    It certainly doesnt make sense that the bigger, stronger, faster and better boxer can get beaten by a weaker, smaller, slower and inferior boxer, does it!

    Think about it!
     
  3. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well he did what Manny will never do, beat Pacquiao twice.
     
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    Because Marquez drink his own **** ?
     
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    :lol:
     
  6. RealBoxing

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  7. anarci

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    WHat about ODLH and Tapia? Prime Barrera had some fast hands.. Even Marquez in at FW,JL had good speed.

    But to answer the tm... Pac hasnt lost any of his speed and against the bigger guys he actually has a big advantage and these guys cant neutrilize it.. Also he has always been a bigger Puncher and more explosive than Marquez.. Marquez doesnt have the equalizer(Power) to get top WW respect, nor the speed to overwhelm them with punches in bunches like Manny. Some guys just dont have the style to keep moving up.. Doesnt mean he wasnt as great as Manny at the lower weights.. Besides winning Fw,JL,LW titles is pretty elite. I think JMM can still be a top guy at JW if he dont age all of a sudden. Besides his only fight up there was against Floyd. We are still waiting to see how Manny doesa against him.

    Mannys speed (along with his skills) is a big part of why he is whupping these guys... But its a good thing for him there arent any big,Fast,punchers fighting at WW right now... He would be in trouble against SRL,Hearns,Duran,prime ODLH,PRime MOsley,Curry,Forrest and a number of other WW Maybe Tito and Quartey too.. Manny is a great fighter no denying that, but hes been matched right at WW.
     
  8. anarci

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    Actually thats not an accurate comparison... The only reason Norton is in the HOF is because of the fits he gave Ali, he was a very good fighter but no way was he great. Ali=Great Norton-very good Pac=Great Marquez=Great.

    Marquez does have a good style for Pac but thats not the only reason... At FW,JL he was Pacs equal and is an atg ... I know there are a few haters that might not think he is an atg but they are in the minority. but most agree he is a great fighter.. Unfortunately Marquez couldnt get Morales,Barrera(not to waylater) like Pac did... I am of the opinion he might have done as well as Pac,and came away with wins and a loss... IMO prime Marquez beat Morales(close) but probably loses to a prime Barrera.
     
  9. ryan_c

    ryan_c Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao will beat prime Oscar(Pac always dominate left dependent fighters, mobile fighters trouble Oscar), prime Mosley is 50/50. Tito is too one dimensional, Pac beats him, he also beats Quartey. :nono
     
  10. compukiller

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    wow.....
     
  11. ryan_c

    ryan_c Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hmm, there many none Pacquiao fans that thinks not only here but in other boards as well who thinks Pac beats prime Oscar, Tito and Mosley. Are you a Mexican like anarci?

    Anarci thinks before that MAB is too much for Pac, so what he state that prime Mosley will beat Pac is not a fact but simply an opinion, just like mine.
     
  12. anarci

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    Mobile fighters? If your talking about Mayweather, WHittaker well thoe guys were just total opposites to Manny.. Manny might be mobile but hes not a defensive master like those 2.. And besides ODLH was on the way down when he fought Mayweahter and still fought him to a close figh... Whittaker lost to ODLH and besides him and Pac are like night and day.... What other mobile fighters are you talking about.. He kod Oba carr, dominated Camacho. Pac would be there to be hit and believe me Prime Oscar (unlike Pacs recent opponents) is fast enough to keep up with Pac, and hits hard enough to trouble him...His jab and range would have also troubled Pac... And he would take Pacs best shots, even a drained washed up one did...
    I see your point with Tito i think thats 50/50 but i can see Pac being to agile for him... I can see Quartey giving Pac trouble with his powerful ramrod jab(like Clottey did) only difference is Quartey wouldnt be so passive and he hit alot harder than Clottey... But Quartey could going into lapses i can also see Pac outhustling him.
     
  13. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    With Pac being as easy as he is to hit, I don't see him getting past a prime Tito, DLH, or Mosley, at the weight.

    An no, I am not Mexican.
     
  14. theflyest

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    different body types/frame/more athletic this is a dumb question
     
  15. ryan_c

    ryan_c Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In Oscar's fight with Mosley, I see Oscar always getting confused and rattled every time Mosley do an in and out style throwing combinations, and Pac is better than Mosley in these department, Mosley is more powerfull, but Pacquio is no slouch at 147 in this department. What I noticed about Oscar ,he is good throwing his combinations when his opponent is close to him, Oscar is not that good in extending his punches ala Morales.

    If Pac decide to use lots of movement just like what he did against Hatton, he will beat Oscar, going toe to toe is dangerous, but I never seen Pac being out punch in toe to toe battle, but using movements is a better choice. Mosley is a tougher fight for Pac than Oscar in their prime.

    Also notice in Pac's fight the only time Oscar throws his fast combination was when Pac was behind the ropes and close to him.