20 years from now, will we remember Pac as Cheat or ATG?

But of course, Divac the idiot that he is would ignore that.

 

Why has'nt honest Bob Arum indicated through the media that Mayweather is holding the fight up, that Manny has accepted full random testing?

Once a liar always a liar.:deal

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZr6MZDBPZI&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

 

Bob Arum has already said they tried to talk to mayweather, it wasnt the drug testing that was the issue...

It was the new Road block of $100 000 000 , thats $100 mil to find his balls to fight the fighter of the decade :hey

 

Are you on record as agreeing with me that if Pacquiao changes his mind again on the random testing issue, he's a lying cheat?????

 

What a **** thread

 

Of course you would disagree. :rofl
you just can't take it that at in just one interview Pac demolishes all your conspiracy theories and efforts. :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Oh I thought the problem was the testing only? you hypocrite. Now Manny agreed, you'll call him a liar. Hahaha!
What is it that you really want then? :rofl

 

Funny how the ******* brings the video of Pac saying he'll accept random testing, but then are not willing to criticize Pacquiao if what he's said in that video is'nt put in contract.:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl


Not a single ******* has stepped up to the plate and stated, "if Pacquiao is lying in regards to agreeing to random testing, I will no longer defend him."

 

It wouldn't matter.

He'll be remembered for his work inside the ring, not allegations of PED, true or not, outside it. Ask Mosley, Pryor, Holyfield, or countless other boxers accused of using steroids.

And as for his outside ring work, he'll be remembered as a hero to his country, in the Philippines.

On that basis, he'll be remembered as an ATG boxer, and a great Filipino in general.

 

I think pac accomplishments over recent years is extremely overrated and exaggerated, specially considering the calibre of fighter he is and the recent opposition he has faced.

In one instance *******s say pac weight gain isn't that crazy over recent years to counter the notion of pac possibly taken peds to be successful at these higher weights.

Yet in another instance when it comes times to rating pac they constantly bring up how he a flyweight dominating WW's e.t.c and it has never been done in the history of the sport.

Yet at no time do they comment on how good in terms of an ATG status the opposition he facing is or was at the time.

So in conclusion you cannot say pac weight gain ain't nothing abnormal over the years when it comes to you defending the ped accusations, then turn around and say it is simple amazing when it comes time to rating his recent accomplishments.

WHICH IS IT?

 

here's my opinion

i think pac is way too overrated. his opponents have been chosen carefully that is why he keeps on winning. his style is downright amateurish and quite predictable. nothing he has done lately impresses me. in the same light, i am certain he is on peds because his accomplishments are quite staggering and impressive. :yep

 

Science supports Pac's concerns!


:-D Science of Sport: The Effects of Blood Donation on Endurance Athletes

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This is for those who say giving blood for tests does not affect athletic performance.

Blood tests for drug use involve collecting about 10-20 cc of blood (1-2 vials). 4 of these drug tests will equal 50-100 cc, or about 10% - 20% of a pint of blood given in donations (450cc).


1. How do periodic reductions in hemoglobin affect an athlete's ability to train?

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Blood is a complicated tissue with many different roles. When you donate blood, you give up a pint of fluid containing mostly water along with various proteins and cells in solution. During high-intensity endurance activities however, it is hemoglobin, found within our red blood cells, that is most important.

Hemoglobin delivers oxygen to our tissues, and when we exercise our muscles require increased amounts of oxygen. If we lack sufficient hemoglobin, anaerobic, or without oxygen, metabolism will ensue (producing lactic acid) at even seemingly moderate levels of intensity.

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, (which is why you may not donate more often than every two months). What then are the lasting effects of this red blood cell loss?

Assuming that your cardiac output (the amount of blood pumped by the heart) remains constant, a drop in hemoglobin concentration associated with donating blood will reduce your oxygen delivery to working muscles by 10 percent. Still, when you are at rest, or even during moderate levels of exercise, oxygen delivery, even at this decreased capacity, far outpaces demand.

However, once you reach a heart rate that is around 5 to 10 percent below your usual anaerobic threshold, your body's demand for oxygen will outpace its supply. For example, if your metabolism typically becomes anaerobic at a heart rate of 170, then after donating blood you will become anaerobic at a heart rate of between 157 and 164 beats per minute. This value will fluctuate because your hemoglobin level will be rising slowly each day, thus the most significant effect will be felt in the first few days after donating.

2. Donating Blood - What Active People Need to Know

He notes that many variables make it difficult to predict how much or how long donating a pint of blood will affect athletic performance. However, he notes that recovery after blood donation is fairly fast. Eichner writes: "In my anecdotal experience,

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2 vials of 10cc x 5 tests = 100cc, about 23% of 450cc, the amount of blood in a pint given in donations. 23% of 4 weeks is roughly 6 days. 6 days of not feeling well during training camp? Sounds very compromising. The REAL reason why USADA stopped blood testing Floyd and Shane 18 days (almost 3 weeks) before the fight. :deal

 

Point blank if you hate on Manny Pacquiao you have probably sucked a dick at least once in your life

 

You have something there......

Myself personally, if there was a way for Pacquiao to prove he's not a PED user, I'd rate his accomplishments very highly, certainly in the mention with the best ever.

.....my rating however would be based on him being a naturally smaller fighter dominating fighters at 3 weight divisions past his natural weight.


......and as you've said Bladegunner, someone of the opinion that Pacquiao is really a 140-147 lbs fighter who was draining all these years to make weight, has no business rating that highly his wins over fighters like DLH, Hatton, Cotto, and Margarito.......all good enough fighters, but fighters that were coming off losses and none of those guys at the time Pacquiao faced them can be said were in that time range fighting at the top of their game.

.....and if thats the case, there is'nt anything overly special about what Pacquiao has done over the last couple of years.
Good resume maybe, but nothing to want to rank Pacquiao with the best that have ever laced them up.

 

Ive already answered this question IF he goes back on his word I will be disappointed

 

So you a ******* are saying Pacroid has'nt accepted full random testing.:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl