Primetime TV: How do they carve out a niche in the boxing market?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by gasman, Apr 25, 2011.


  1. gasman

    gasman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Primetime TV, the UK and Ireland PPV company has made tentative steps in the boxing world since its formation over a year ago.

    It has screened memorable Carl Froch fights in the Super Six, and fights from Germany and elsewhere around the world. It has also shown quite a bit of MMA in recent months.

    The recent Khan-McCloskey PPV and the circumstances leading to this opportunity could potentially lead to bigger things with Goldenboy (if this is the case).

    So, how can Primetime (realistically) enact a strategy for growth, both in the delivery of their PPV cards and fan-friendly service to punters both, before and after a big fight screening?

    What additions or amendments to their current offering could benefit Primetime to carve out a niche in the market and improve their service to the paying audience?:smoke
     
  2. happylora

    happylora Member Full Member

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    merge with premier sports so people on cable can get premier sports
     
  3. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    Sign a deal with a US and a UK promoter. Start offering various PPV's at least once a month and have a price structure and season tickets.

    UK & US Dual PPV - £15
    UK Only World Title - £10
    US Only World Title - £7
    UK Domestic - £5

    Sort out HD, a regular punditry team thats involved in the build up. They also need a proper Marketing strategy.


    If Primetime really want Khan vs Bradley to be a success do a deal with Mick Hennesey to have Chisora vs Fury as the UK leg. Thats a statement.
     
  4. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    this would not be possible for so many reasons.
     
  5. gasman

    gasman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah, a price structure and a UK leg is a must if they are serious about making an impact. Although, I don't see domestic PPVs ever working, it wouldnt be feasible to cover all the OB costs etc and making much from a fiver PPV.

    Let's say Primetime show Khan's next 3 or 4 fights and even if they get Froch-Johnson as well. They need a UK leg, both Froch and Khan at 4am in the US are not going to sell.

    Hennessey and Brian Peters could work together to deliver a UK/Ireland leg.

    An absolute necessity is that Primetime offer the facility to record their PPVs, especially if they are going to be putting Khan fights on at 4am. A lot of people will want to watch the UK/Ireland leg then record the US card and watch the next morning.

    I would like to see money invested in a magazine show and some hype documentaries for the bigger fights. In other words, they need to reinvest some of the profits to provide a better service.
     
  6. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem with Primetime is they are a PPV outlet that has minimal marketing influence to market these premium priced events.

    Therefore they are operating in a very small market range essentially the PPV's they can make money off are one's they can either get at a cheap enough price that a small amount of buys are going to turn a profit.

    Or like the recent Khan fight a bout that will sell well becauseof a decent name that has had lots of exposure on another platform. Im not sure how well it would have done if Khan had been on Primetime from the outset.

    Im not sure I like it their strategy is to pinch a fight here or there that they think can turn a profit rather than a long term commitment to boxing broadcasting. If/when ITV get a PPV channel going they would be able to do a better job at snatching up these type of fights and builidng them up and displaying them to a larger audience.
     
  7. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    gasman u can record there ppvs its just becuase your line isnt connected.
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Yep the main problem is what wrmc said. You're trying to sell a product for money with very little exposure. That makes life pretty hard.
     
  9. gasman

    gasman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Are you sure about that? A friend of mine told me he bought the ppv and couldnt sky+ it and he has his line connected to his sky box 24/7.
     
  10. gasman

    gasman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with a lot of what you said, but can Primetime go from being an adhoc opportunist PPV provider to an established player in the market by adopting a more proactive strategy? That would mean they have to roll out a marketing strategy alongside a pipeline of premium card i.e. UK and US legs as described by Rob, for example.
     
  11. leighton

    leighton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Primetime have gone backwards if you compare them to Premier Sports both came out around the same time but Premier have done most in a short space of time and I think they will become stronger for boxing fans in the UK and Ireland. Both have issues about getting on all platforms but I think Premier are going in the right direction. Apart from the Khan fight Primetime havnt offered alot.

    Regarding PPVs it isnt going to work look at Skys stance the money isnt there to make off the PPVs as once was. With Premier Sports there subs are going on sports like boxing instead of going all out for football , cricket , rugby and golf that sky sports have done and Premier have picked up whatever fights that Sky didnt take up from the US and around the world. Also they had a Hennessy show aswell. Sadly for these they wont get a English promotor as Sky have and will always keep the likes of Warren , Matchroom and Maloney no matter what also there relationship with Hatton and Haye in recent years seems very strong. Haye doesnt have a team of fighters like they did when on Setanta and Hennessey who would be the only option out there has lost most of his best fighters and wouldnt have a fighter that a tv company would be willing to offer him dates on a tv company. IF Premier could get the German cards that Setanta once had it would be great but I would feel with Premier we have a better chance of seeing more boxing than Primetime.
     
  12. 1971791

    1971791 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    But who'll pay £7 for a PPV, the £3 doesn't make much difference, if you're no going to get it for a tenner, you won't for a £3 discount.
     
  13. Rangersfan1982

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    IMO they had a great opportunity with the kahn fight. They should have charged it at around £8. £15 was to pricey for what was on offer.
     
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    1971791 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, that's true, but that's a 47% discount, pretty much half-price, so sales would have been noticeably higher. A £3 discount from £10 won't do much to boost sales.
     
  15. leighton

    leighton Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont get the obsession of PPV fights to be honest. Not every fighter is PPV standard. To have to pay money to watch British level domestic fights is a joke and there is no chance of those fighters building up a fan base no matter what price you charge people. Fighters and promotors need to know that they are maybe not PPV standard. In the UK at the moment only Haye is PPV standard. As people will buy into him even against Harrison. Says it all about Khan he isnt a big seller in the UK and thats why he got removed from SBO. Froch should be a PPV star on Sky but his fights will more than likely be on normal Sky if they pull there finger out with them being in the US.