Andre Ward debuts in Ring Magazine Top 10 Pound4Pound

YOu clearly dont know anything about how to attain citizenship, you think being born in this country is the only qualification to being American? My sister was born abroad, is she not an American?

Sit down limey.

 

How is Jean Pascal not in this list? It's a disgrace!

 

Getting his arse kicked in his last fight didn't help.

 

He's beaten Dawson, beat Diaconu, was robbed against Froch and dropped Hopkins twice. Beats what Ward has done!

 

I have no problem now with ward being a top ten p4p. Don't get me wrong, i'm still not sold on him but with floyd and lopez dropping from my list, there are only 8 clear p4p guys imo(pac, martinez, donaire, marquez, hopkins, wlad, segura, pong) and ward is definitely in the next category along with agbeko, pascal, khan, bradley, adamek, haye, froch etc. Obviously bradley and ward have the huge advantage of being unbeaten as well as being at the top of their divisions so they can be there no problem.

 

shhhhhhhhhhh!!

 

because he couldnt beat grandpa bernard in his last fight an got saved by the ref vs dawson.

 

Vitali deserves it more IMO. but Ward is talented enough.. Adamek is another good consideration , along with Gamboa

 

Ward might be the smartest boxer in the business next to donaire after floyd retires.

 

Glen Johnson would KO Pascal. Pascal is a gasser. He'd gas against Johnso
n who is relentless and get KO'd. Dawson was beating his ass around the ring before Pascal got lucky with a headbutt. If Dawson would have started putting pressure earlier he would have KO'd Pascal. The top 2 fighters in the light heavyweight division are American. Top 3 are North American. No Euro's lol. Sorry ******.

Based on what *****?

Who has Haye or Klitscko beaten on the level of Mikkel Kessler?

You dont get credit for beating a fighter better. What the hell does that even mean lol. You either win or you dont.

By your logic Kessler beat Andrade easily, while Bute got knocked out, and Ward beat Kessler easily, thus that makes Ward better then Kessler and better then Bute.

But thats your ****** logic. Ward beat the better boxer of the two, thus Ward is rated higher and rightfully so. Sorry Eurofaggot.

I said it could have gone either way. Has nothing to do with robbery. Where did I say robbery ******? Seriously you cant read english boy?

As for Cloud he is a better fighter then anyone on Butes resume.

Ward was still in the prospect stage. Bute got bet by Andrade, who Kessler shut out when he was a veteran. Nobody who gets Ko'd by a non puncher in Andrade makes pound for pound sorry. May work like that in the ****** country you come from but not here.

Uhh Jones said over a year to recover. The Johnson fight occured over a year later you ****ing dummy lol! Stop making excuses you little ****** *****.

Uhh thats what im talking about dumbass. Fragomeni beat those fighters not Erdie. So how does that make Erdie pound for pound. You get pound for pound on YOUR RESUME. Not someone elses. And fragomeni's resume is **** jut like Erdie's.

Not as limited as Dzirinkuk was he lol. Williasm beat Martinz. Your Eurobum got blasted out like a nobody. As most Euro fighters are.

Vacated title ass clown. You know why Mayweather and Pacquiao are great and European fighters arent? They beat champions. They dont win vacated titles from journeymen you stupid ******.

 

He beat Dawson, a very good win, and 2 wins over Diaconu are also good. He was not robbed against Froch, you've either not seen the fight and are assuming or are completely blind, there was no controversy over Frochs' win, just that the cards were a bit too wide. After dropping Hopkins twice he was badly schooled, it took me a while to see the fight but when I did I was suprised to see how little the one sided-ness of the last 8 rounds had been exaggerated on here, it was pretty bad, he's incredibly lucky to gave got a draw. 3 significant wins shouldn't make you a pound-for-pounder. Robert Guerrero has that beat and nobodies talking about him.