Effective Nutrition for Weight Loss while training very hard

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by brown bomber, Apr 18, 2011.


  1. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    Hey I love FREDDIE FOXX :D
     
  2. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Have you heard about increasing your HGH levels by not eating before you go to sleep and not eating an hour after doing HIIT? Or is that bull****
     
  3. MrSmall

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    Haven't you squatted 400lbs?
    Surely you have enough experience in training to know what is blatantly bull****?
     
  4. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    :yep good point, but I just wanted to see if anybody else heard about it
     
  5. MrSmall

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    You hear all sorts :D
     
  6. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Great, great thread guys thanks a million
     
  7. PABoognish

    PABoognish New Member Full Member

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    Hey there .. new to this site but based on what i've read on this post i'd love to see that info your Pm'ing out MRSmall ...
     
  8. MrSmall

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    Hows it going, BROWN BOMBER? Progress should be apparent already. I dropped 6 lbs in 4 days for my competition this weekend, no dehydration or homo.

    I'll pm you PABoognish
     
  9. who doesnt ? MrSmall your becoming quite a hit your gonna have to start a a pay per pm service
     
  10. nblakeman

    nblakeman New Member Full Member

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    I would also appreciate the PM Mr. Small. Thanks.
     
  11. _R_NK

    _R_NK New Member Full Member

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    Same here. I like to think I know a fair bit about nutrition, but I'd love to get a PM about what you think! Thanks
     
  12. You sound like you need some cell tech.
     
  13. Arranmcl

    Arranmcl Arran Full Member

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    I was about to ask for the pm then saw how many people were asking for it and thought "if that was me i would tell everyone to **** off" so im not going to ask or ill feel like a ****.

    Still, thanks for some of the information i have read in your posts :)
     
  14. lefty

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    I'd forgotten about this.
    Yes every individual is unique however there are general physiological reactions to everything so the same principles apply to everyone.
    The people who do these studies aren't just random people doing random studies, they are generally experts in their field conducting a tightly controlled study. They have to take everything into account and have it reviewed by their peers in the field before it can be published in a journal.
    There is no way in hell I'd take an Olympic gold medallist's advice on training methods over someone who understands more. Success in sport isn't a credential, athletes can succeed due to a large number of things, despite a large number of things.
    Every body reacts differently to training so you do have to adjust what you're doing to suit that person and monitor them closely, no one glove fits all. That's due to genetics, body composition and their psychological state mostly. Their is an optimal way to train someone and while that may not ever be obtainable a good trainer is going to try and reach it, settling for 'what works' is just laziness in my opinion.
    Using something you learned in a journal article is no guarantee for success when it comes to training someone as you have to take a lot of things into account and that persons strengths and weaknesses, however it gives you a very valuable clue that you'd be foolish to discard. You should even place it above your own previous experience because what is more credible, what's worked for you in the past (which had no controls, there would be many things you didn't take into account or even thought of) or a tightly controlled study?
    A good coach knows nothing for each new person, he starts fresh. He takes some basic principles from a reliable source, what he's had success with in the past. The most important thing you alluded to is the principle of individuality.
    With that being said nutrition is far less variable from person to person and that is the point of this thread, nutrition has been studied back to front so the advice you get in textbooks is very reliable, every body basically reacts to food the same way. It's been shown in numerous studies that extra protein is pointless and potentially detrimental. That popular view of 'lots of protein builds and preserves muscle' is from the bodybuilding world where 'more is better'. Everything in our bodies relies on a balance of a number of things, to look at protein and say have lots of that is focusing on one tiny irrelevant piece. Bodybuilders don't need extra protein, that has been proven. However because of people of people with your mentality 'hey it worked for all these people' then it's never going to change. In an alternative world maybe bodybuilders are actually healthy and follow established nutritional facts from people who actually are experts in the field of nutrition.
     
  15. lefty

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    And why do you say this? Have you investigated, tried it for yourself, looked into the science behind it, the credibility of the person/s claiming it?
    You seem to put too much stock into what YOU know, maybe try opening up that mind a little.