Mayweather will use Mosley vs Pac as the ultimate study guide

also Floyd doesn't really study, but Roger anf FLoyd Sr. sure do. Then they come up with the game plans

 

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Dude, slow your roll. If I'm a nuthugger of any fighters (and I'm not) you'd have to be talking Ali, Ray Robinson,Norton,Liston, Langford, Louis and that's where it stops. If you truly love boxing you love what Mayweather brings in fundamentals. Whether he's in the twilight of his career or not there's nobody better. Nobody! Unless it's Manny not Sergio. As far as how his fight game has changed, it's hard for me to say. When I see him in the gym against Chop Chop or maybe Tim Coleman, he throws non-stop punches unlike anything I've ever seen him do in a bout. I've never seen him let his hands go in a match like that ever. But in his last match against Shane he straight up went Toe to Toe with Shane and I'd only seen that under diress like in the Chavez fight or against somebody like Corrales who just didn't have the athleticism on any level. When you fight 2x's in 4 years in most cases you'll see some deterioration. You won't see as much with Floyd because he has always fought from the neck up. Floyd fights with his brain(just look at the payday the Tards are gonna give him). So because it's more of an intellectual pursuit at this point, you probably won't see the same type of movement that we've seen from him over the years. You will see him go toe to toe with Manny because he knows people are saying,"Floyd cannot go toe to toe with Manny!" They said that about him with Shane, Corrales, JLC. And this will be what the Tards are going to wanna see! And Floydie knows that for him to entertain and bring the Tards into his world after this fight is more important and lucretive than anything. Yep! But since you accused me of being a Money nuthugger, I'll just simply say the Floydie you got now saw his best days before he fought ODLH! That's just my opinion. Oh and by the way ****? How are you going to start your new love affair with Floyd?

 

UH this topic is stupid.
How many fights does he need to watch?

They have numerous wins over the same opponents.
The most telling is Marquez. The fight was clearly won by Floyd but wasn't strictly one sided. (I for one thought if that fight was made at 140 and Floyd made 140 it would have been a different story. As is Floyd came in at 160 lbs. Give or take 2 lbs)
You can look all you want BUT unless there is a significant flaw (alla Hayton) then
there isn't much to go by. And people may say Pac has flaw's, but I feel as they aren't so much flaws as wanting to fight. And then his speed and mobility also negates those things people call flaws. And in regards to FMSr saying Pac has shitty balance. How can people not call this guy a crack head to his face? The Cotto fight is a perfect example of his balance. IE the 2nd knockdown.

I am with the consensus that Floyd wants Pac to slow down.
That he isn't fighting because he is under the impression that you only have so many miles you can put on that odometer. So he hopes Manny keeps going to war and that will slow him down.

 

****....I hope you're right about Floyd using this fight as a study guide to beat PAC. That would mean Floyd is seriously thinking about finally making the fight happen... I'm not optimistic. Floyd has shown too many telling signs that he's just not gonna fight PAC.

And I'll take you're bet on the PAC vs Shane fight. I actually live right in Baltimore so DC isn't but 30-40 mins from me. How much you tryin' to lose?

 

You do this homework starting with the guys who beat him or beat him down and why? Medgoen Sinsurat, Agapito Sanchez, EriK Morales I, Both JMM fights! These are the blueprints. Old habits die hard in boxing. bad habits even take longer to die. Floyd usually wins fights due to his opponents mistakes!

 

O.k BG, I read a few of your posts and took you for one of the many trolls in the general, I guess they drag you down to their level at times. :yep

I appreciate your response and the one thing I have been saying about Mayweather is what you are saying ......... and that is that Floyd fights from the neck up. :deal

You say yourself nobody is better, "unless it's Manny", so like many others there are question marks that need answering in your mind. ie - they need to fight. :bbb

You claim you have watched Floyd in the gym and he lets his hands go like he's never done before and predict he'll go toe-to-toe with Manny ....... now that I wanna see! :happy

O.k, so let's back-pedal a little and talk about "from the neck up", I'd like to know what you mean by this? You imply that Floyd will use his brain to fight toe-to-toe with Manny, in an "intellectual pursuit" capacity, to please the fans (he wishes to entertain them now) and sorta bring the "tards" from the darkside onto his side :yep

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here .....

I think what you're trying to say is that Floyd is not prime and that he's now switched to the more offensive version (toe-to-toe you say) which faced Shane and that he would adopt a similarly offensive stance should he face Manny, ..... a less back-peddling .... more crowd-pleasing entertaining Floyd. :thumbsup

Is that about right?

 

Why would mayweather need to study this fight when he wont step in the ring with King Pac Anyways!!!!

 

No but he used Manny vs ODLH and Hatton as the holy **** this guy is in not real guide.

 

Mosley won't win a round. And all it's gonna do is make Floyd go into hiding again after Pac whoops Mosley's ass worse then he did.

 

I've never said that the Tards are on the dark-side. Never said that. If you follow Manny you follow the best in the sport. I'll never argue that! Never! As far as fighting from the neck up? Ring Generalship! That's everything from making no fundamental mistakes with footwork to forcing guys to your spots. In Floyds case usually that means keeping your guy in the middle of the ring and boxing him. Using the 3 or 5 punch combos inside and getting out of the opponents reach while looking to counter. But mainly Floyd has an interest in winning each round and feeling out where his opponents weaknesses are. For example, the Hatton fight is the perfect example of Floyd taking his time and just looking for the other fighters shortcomings. And, of course, Ricky has a lot of them. Also fighting from the neck up means not taking unnecessary chances to do easy work. This Manny is getting a lot better at. So I guess the neckup concept has to do with Ring savvy, defensive work in the middle of the ring and on the ropes and lastly punch output that's efficient, high% and not expendable!

 

:deal And If pac stops shane... Then forget about it..

 

Also, I really don't want to see this crowd pleasing Floyd fight Manny. I want to see Manny fight the other Floyd with Movement and the most incredible defense and fast hands that we've never seen from anybody at 130 0r 135 or 140 even. Floyd and this new style that he's come about is going to make him more of a moving target for Manny like it did for Shane and Floyd thrived anyway. I think Manny's defense and hand speed are being underestimated by almost all his opponents. Not Floyd! He's been watching this guy since before he retired the 1st time. The JMM fight was well calculated for the Pac fan. This way he could beat JMM every round and continue to raise the question marks about Manny's skill sets.

 

O.k, I'm with you here.

Look, this is my take for what it is worth .....

I think Floyd, like he said himself, is 90% mental, 10% the rest.

He has those fundamentals like you said, better than anyone fighting now. He's not prime and has maybe slowed-up slightly.

Now we can say anything about the Mayweathers but the one thing they know above anything else is the fight-game, they know it inside-out and upside-down, no question.

There has been a lot said, a lot of posturing and trash-talk etc


I have two questions ....

1) Have the Mayweathers saw something in Pacquiao that makes the fight too risky ?

2) Is Floyd mentally right for a fight with Manny?


Before you call me a ******* again bear in mind that my stance on this is that should these two guys fight I think Floyd wins a decision .......... but also, if this fight does not happen, I'm gonna presume that the Maywether's didn't fancy this fight, that it was too risky.

I'll give it to Pac should this fight not happen.

 

What Prime P4P Welterweight did Floyd totally nullify their offense ?

So how is Floyd years from his prime going to stop the best offensive southpaw in the history of the sport ?
By going 12 rounds ? Floyd by decision is laughable. If you believe that you are a true "fanboy"