Sometimes being dynamic and an innovator can get you caught out!!!

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  1. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Jon Jones is a freestyler, he is dynamic, an innovator, you name it. However others are like that and if someone has the will to stay in the pocket and make them pay for their mistakes then they can be caught out.

    I'm thinking the way Faber got caught by Mike Brown when he tried an elbow from a risky angle.

    How likely is it for Jon Jones to face a similar fate?

    I thought Rua was the man but not in that condition and with a disregard for takedowns.
     
  2. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    for every faber there is an aldo, be patient there will be someone soone to dominate the **** out of JJ as he did the others
     
  3. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    Risky moves come with a risk, obviously. However, Jones is not just pulling these moves out of his ass. Jones is in a great camp, and experiments against top notch competition. I'm not going to say one of these moves won't come back to haunt him, but he is attempting them after quality rehearsals.
     
  4. zarman

    zarman Guest

    I have a feeling a Rampage hook or a counter Machida face kick will do the trick
     
  5. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    I agree with everything you stated and have said the same thing previous (before the Shogun fight). I too was wrong about the shogun fight. I remember Popkins making the comparison to Paul Williams, a huge(for his wieghtclass) long armed fighter who took unnecessary risks and eventually paid the price.

    Im no hater of Jones, but I think its a question of when Jon Jones will pay for his recklessness as faber has...twice (against Tyson Griffin as well as Mike Brown)

    Because of this, to be great, Jones will either have to fight through a losing battle at some point and find a way to win showing his resilience in the process like Fedor and Anderson Silva have. Or lose and refine his style to come back better like GSP has. I think Jones may have the tools to be great but we have not seen proof of these intangibles yet, it will be interesting to see.
     
  6. CrimsonBeast

    CrimsonBeast Active Member Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  7. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    Wow people, have you actually seen how he wins his fights? He takes a guy down, tires him out and then pounds or submits them. And if he tries the risky stuff once or twice in a fight its more of a danger to his opponent than to him.
     
  8. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    yea i believe if anyone is going to stop jon jones it will be my boy lyoto machida! machida karate!!!!
     
  9. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    well in some ways jones could be compared to a young gsp. Gsp too was 23 when he got his first ufc title shot, but he lost to matt hughes.

    Both are similar in many ways, both are athletically gifted, and both are really ground fighters that have great standup, gsp has become cautious while jones still hasnt had reason to be.

    I wrote this previously(before the shogun fight, becauase I thought jones was in over his head in that fight) that gsp came back from his first loss better than ever how will jones do when he first loses?

    I mean a real loss, where he is actually beaten by his opponent instead of the DQ loss he has which I thought was ridiculous in the first place considering he only landed 2 illegal elbows in quick succession and was about to stop his opponent prior to them, but since after the elbows his opponent (Hammil) couldn't continue the fight the bout was ruled a dq.
     
  10. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    i agree with yacas comparisons and future predictions.
     
  11. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    yea bro yaca's tell them bro it makes sense ae and also i heard the downward elbows were banned because there is a video of how it can break ice.
     
  12. Amrn4s

    Amrn4s Active Member Full Member

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    Eventually there will be somebody to figure out Jones. Its MMA anybody could win at anytime. Thats the beauty of the sport. :wooo
     
  13. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Faber and Jones are similar in ways but I dont think Jones would do something as dumb as Faber did in the 1st Mike Brown fight. Remember Faber jumped in with an elbow and had his face facing the oppostion direction so he ran into a right hand that he never seen and he didnt see it because he bad a awful decision. Now I believe Urijah is an intelligtent fighter but he does make some bad choices. I dont see Jon Jones closing his eyes or looking away and running into a big shot.
     
  14. yaca you

    yaca you Someone past surprise Full Member

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    we combine our powers and none can stand against us!

    the house of yaca and achillies unite.


    Send me one of your women, and I shall marry her!

    (as long as she has at least 3 years of plow experience, and is not afraid to milk goats. for I have many goats. ahhh desert life is hard!)
     
  15. Stoo

    Stoo Obsessed with Boxing banned

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