Ko, you're David Haye, how will beat Waldimir?

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  1. Bubby

    Bubby Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You got Haye's skills. Chin, speed, power. How would you use them to win against Waldimir Klitschko?
     
  2. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Haye's only bet IMO is to bet the farm on an early ambush. Wlad will be cautious in the beginning and Wlad will expect for Haye to start likewise. I'd try to surprise Wlad.

    If I was Haye I'd try to come out and try to counter Wlad on everything he does and jump at him with wild flurries, hoping something big lands. If this doesn't bring at least a good knockdown until round 6 then I'd let Adam Booth know to have the white towel ready to save my ass.
     
  3. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    I would gather all my courage and just charge him from the opening bell...
     
  4. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stay outside of Wladimirs rangey jab and use that speed and explosiveness to dart through just as Wladimir is coming forward, using his own height and weight against him.

    If Haye is a student of the sport he should watch some Martinez - Dzinziruk tapes to see how to negate a beautiful jab, he may not necessarily want to keep up with Martinez frequency, but he'll see that Martinez completely denies Dzinziruk his jab by keeping on the outside and moving his head all the time.
     
  5. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I agree with this, and I think this is a great example; however, I think Wlad's hook is much more dangerous than Dzinziruk's.

    This is the punch I think Haye needs to be most wary of. It can end his night quickly if he's not careful.
     
  6. Predator

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    I'd run across the ring and try and land a bomb on that egg Chin.
     
  7. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    just accept my fate and get a pizza face
     
  8. lion

    lion Active Member Full Member

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    hit him in the chin with one single shot. Game Over
     
  9. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sounds pretty easy.
     
  10. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad won't be coming forward until he's sure Haye's shot his load, is breathing heavily and doesn't look as sharp anymore. Maybe after round 8.

    Before the end of the fight, if Haye wants to land something, he'll have to come close to Wlad and risk getting tagged himself.
     
  11. MagicMan91

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    Shoot him.

    In the face.

    With a gun.

    A big one.
     
  12. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    Avoid the jab as much as possible in the first 3 or so rounds and time his jab, then from round 4 onwards start throwing quick counters and catch him off guard.
     
  13. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everytime Wlad throws a jab, he comes foward enough for Haye to throw a counterpunch if he's in the proper position.

    Wlad may approach this fight aggressively like he did against Ray Austin. If you note, Austin was actually even money and at times outboxing Wlad until Wlad landed those monsterous hooks.

    I think Haye is more elusive than he seems, certainly moreso than Austin, and he can avoid the hooks that Klitschko managed to tag Austin with.

    At the same time, unlike Austin, Haye is a serious puncher and his power should make Wlad tenative.

    This very well could be a boring affair. If this is the case, even if Haye manages to outbox Wlad which is possible considering his speed and movement, it is likely that Wlad will win the fight on the scorecards in Germany.

    Unlike Wlad though, I don't think Haye is content with winning a decision and realizes he at least needs a knock down to win, regardless of how many rounds he may have put in the bank.
     
  14. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Use a lot of lateral movement, explode on every counter opportunity, use constant head/upper body movement every time Wlad gets in range with his jab.
     
  15. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Absolutely, thats why I don't see this fight going no more than 6 rounds. I think someone is gonna get stretched pretty early, too much power for either man to handle imo. Gameplan will be very important seeing as though both men have questionable chins.

    If this one goes above 8 rounds, it'll be a heavyweight dudd, it'll be a mere Ibragimov - Wladimir Klitschko copy.



    HENDO answered that question for me. Wladimir is going to be in the line of fire because Haye is such an explosive fighter. The question is, can Wladimir put his seeming fear aside and knuckle up against Haye? If he does I think he knocks Haye out cold, if he's wary of letting his hands go, Haye can use that jab of his against him.