Yeah, it tends to be in these fantasy bouts that Mayweather wins UD or late stoppage all of the time. No analysis goes in to it. That's why these bouts are thought up, because some analysis can go into it. 'Can the smaller mexicans pull the upset?'...etc. But then some guy who was old enough to bet on a bout in 96/7 turns up sharing his wisdom, as he always does. I wasn't even born in 96/7...no wait I was.
Well, what's he got to rest his laurels on? "Oh, I beat Corrales before he went to prison for beating his wife and couldn't make weight!" or "Oh, I beat Oscar DLH once he quit jabbing me in the face!" or "Oh, I outboxed some amatuers back in the day by a few points!" Total sham, but I love to see his career defended, because it amplifies most other boxer careers by a huge landslide.
Listen, what do you think Morales will bring to the table to challenge PBF at 130lb? What? PBF isn't going to KO Morales. But he is going to play keep away because of his foot speed. And Floyd is just as rangy as Morales and much faster. Morales can't try and play the feint and wait game with PBF, he isn't going to counter PBF. So what is he going to do, come forward.......ok. And then what? You guessed it eat counters. But **** it, if you want to believe MAB, Morales, JMM give PBF a run for his money and possibly beat him. **** IT WHAT DO I CARE! *****S want to believe PBF easily outboxes Duran. *******s think he beats a prime DLH and Mosley. **** it you guys have fun with that.
I defend his career to a point. But I won't defend him blindly just because I am a fan. I certainly don't give him credit for possible wins above 140lbs he could hold on his resume, like some do.
'Listen', when did I say Barrera and Marquez stood a chance, or are you only reading what you want to read? I thought a guy with your wisdom would eat up all of the words I typed to produce a clearer view of my debate, in turn coming back with a counter-argument. But all you did was come back with a childish, condescending post. Mayweather should win this match-up, but you are just outlining what Mayweather is/was great at...you're describing the very best Mayweather, everything on the night goes his way. You're talking like Mayweather has never had a close bout in his life (even though he has had very few close bouts). But what happens if Morales can get his range early, and start tagging Mayweather? Speed can be countered. Mayweather had great footspeed and footwork...but does that automatically stop Morales pushing Mayweather from one side of the ring to the other after Mayweather has relaxed after producing his own offense (e.g. Morales v Pacquiao I - 1st round)? What if Morales can turn it in to a war? The guy loved to fight. Does Mayweather automatically win because it is 130lbs, and people including myself rank him very high in the weight class? Lesser fighters have taken Mayweather to the limit. But what do I know, I'm just a 'noob' who should 'listen'...right? 'HAHAHAHAHAHA'. :dead
That's not true....at least coming from me. It's just some of these fantasy match-ups are always versus fighters who have gotten beaten and or severely outboxed by fighters with far-less skill and talent than Mayweather. So many people Hate and Don't like Floyd Mayweather...Fine, I get that. But not liking someone should never block your ability to see how good a fighter is. What Floyd did at 130lbs and 135lbs was Phemonenal. And for anyone to believe that fighters who's best weight was around 122-126lbs are just going to walk in the ring, take off their robe, put in their mouth-piece and throw 9 punches and END THE FIGHT....THAT'S JUST ABSURD!!!
well you can't keep running around playing cop around these threads if that's what you're after. you'll frustrate yourself. not all here, not even most have deeply rooted knowledge, much less experience, in boxing. plus, this is a boxing site where people get to keep their anonymity. so good luck trying to keep posters straight of their opinions.
I've never actually seen you post in the fantasy match-up threads, to be honest. But you get people who claim Mayweather could stand and last with some of the greatest Welterweights in history (I'm of a different opinion). It is somewhat similar to the smaller mexicans up against a great fighter in Mayweather at 130lbs. But like me stating that Morales could give Mayweather something to think about (not necessarily win, I havn't claimed Morales would win in this thread)...it's not out of the question for Mayweather to give some of the greatest Welters something to think about... ...before he is stopped.
Morales - Dont care, would love to see this fight. Morales possesses the straight line fire, strength, and the aggresive, take every inch attitude that I could see giving Mayweather some problems. Id love to see this matchup. People thinking Mayweather deals with Morales easily need to wake up a bit. Mayweather didnt school Castillo, Hatton was giving him some tough work at times, among plenty of other fighters throughout his career. And while each time it was due to something different that maybe Morales doesnt have specifically, Morales brings his own set of qualities that will make Mayweather have to put in work. Morales is no Gatti. And for those that brought up the Raheem fight, first off, Morales was done past it in that fight, not even close to the Morales we are talking about here. When a fighter is going up against a style that doesnt suit him, being as far away from your best as morales was against raheem will make you look even worse. Its easier to get away with fighting a style that will mesh with yours once your past it, and you can still pass with some magic... but for Morales to be effective against that kind of fighter, he would need to be at his best. And for Raheem, he wasnt. Not to mention, that was his first fight at 135, so besides that hes past it, its not even at the weight we will be discussing this fight at. Obviously, one can look at that fight as a reference, but it shouldnt be what one lays their foundation with when discussing this matchup. I think Morales, when at his best (although it wouldnt be his best weight at 130 eather, obviously) would win many of the early rounds off his pure effective aggression that he had in his prime. But, unfortunately, I think Mayweather would start to find his groove, being able to absorb a lot of Morales effectiveness with his slickness, along with his size, along with it not being Morales's best weight, prime or not. I think Morales stays game and makes Mayweather work for it all night, but at the end of it all, I have to favor Floyd to win a decision. Mab - I think Mayweather is able to effectively outbox Marco, Marco will have his moments, hes too great not to. People shouldnt confuse Morales and MAB for Corrales and Castillo. Corrales and Castillo might be a bit bigger, but they are not on these twos level in terms of ability and skill. However, it would be too little, with too little, for Mab, against PBF, imo. Thats no knock on Marco eather. JMM - Just imo, but to me, jmm gets schooled at any weight by any floyd, imo. Just doesnt match up well at all. I also rank Marquez the lowest of these three. Actually, I think a prime Mayweather could very well stop JMM... the only reason he wouldnt is because a younger JMM, who one could consider 'prime' I suppose, fought much more defensively and probably wouldnt be getting tagged as much, but it would also cost him any success he would ever have period, and would lose by a lopsided UD. Nothing at all against the great mexican trio.... simply would be up against a bigger fighter who himself is a legit, legit, great. Id be rooting for them though Just imo
It's funny the thread title says mexicos big three against floyd at 130, yet none of these 3 would be bigger than floyd at that weight or more skilled. Not one of these guys would win. Deal with it.
Any of the three on any order can kick that n!gg@ a$$ Morales-Barrera-Marquez Barrera-Marquez-Morales Marquez-Morales-Barrera FRAUDBOY will be a snack for them on that weight class and surely FRAUD will be ghostly on that weight as well ... but i really do not think FRAUD can face them in a year ... maybe one of them for each year cuz FRAUD needs to cycle the thing out, its not illegal, made just for FRAUD