Who is was the Lineal Welterweight Champion

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  1. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member Full Member

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    I think we all know that there is no actual list. But the idea is, "The Man Who Beat The Man!"


    Thoughts. I have forced Mayweather to vacate his title! :good

    Emile Griffith 62 Dec 8 1963 Mar 21
    Luis Manuel Rodriguez 63 Mar 21 1963 Jun 8
    Emile Griffith 63 Jun 8 1966 Apr 25 V
    Curtis Cokes 66 Aug 24 D 1969 Apr 18
    Jose Napoles 69 Apr 18 1970 Dec 3
    Billy Backus 70 Dec 3 1971 Jun 4
    Jose Napoles 71 Jun 4 1975 *S
    Angel Espada 75 Jun 28 D 1976 Jul 17
    Pipino Cuevas 76 Jul 17 1980 Aug 2
    Thomas Hearns 80 Aug 2 1981 Sep 16
    Sugar Ray Leonard 81 Sep 16 1982 Nov 9 R
    Donald Curry 83 Nov 9 D 1986 Sep 27
    Lloyd Honeyghan 86 Sep 27 1987 Oct 28
    Jorge Vaca 87 Oct 28 1988 Mar 29
    Lloyd Honeyghan*(2) 88 Mar 29 1989 Feb 4
    Marlon Starling 89 Feb 4 1990 Aug 19
    Maurice Blocker 90 Aug 19 1991 Mar 18
    Simon Brown 91 Mar 18 1991 Nov 29
    James (Buddy) McGirt 91 Nov 29 1993 Mar 6
    Pernell Whitaker 93 Mar 6 1997 Apr 12
    Oscar De La Hoya 97 Apr 12 1999 Sep 18
    Felix Trinidad 99 Sep 18 2000 Mar 3 V
    Shane Mosley 00 Mar 3 D 2002 Jan 26
    Vernon Forrest 02 Jan 26 2003 Jan 25
    Ricardo Mayorga 03 Jan 25 2003 Dec 13
    Cory Spinks 03 Dec 13 2005 Feb 5
    Zab Judah 05 Feb 5 2006 Jan 7
    Carlos Manuel Baldomir 06 Jan 7 2006 Nov 4
    Floyd Mayweather Jr. 06 Nov 4 2008 Jun 6 V
    Paul Williams 08 Jun 6 D 2008 Nov 12 V
    Miguel Angel Cotto 08 Nov 12 D 2009 Nov 14
    Manny Pacquiao 09 Nov 14 Present

    D = Deemed Champion
    V = Vacated
    R = Retired

    Sorry for the Jumble, anyone know how to format this?
     
    Hannibal, Apr 28, 2011
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  2. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hwo the hell is Pacquiao the lineal champion? Would di he win it from? Cotto? Mosley was the man at wetlerweight when Pac fought Cotto
     
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  3. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its still Floyd.
     
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  4. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    We lost the lineage when Floyd retired. Hasn't been established since. Although Pac is making the best case for it, since he's the only one beating other top WW's.
     
    Lance_Uppercut, Apr 28, 2011
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  5. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's vacant:deal
     
    Vitor Belfort, Apr 28, 2011
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  6. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member Full Member

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    My theory is that there is always a champion and I deemed Paul Williams
     
    Hannibal, Apr 28, 2011
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  7. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Paulie Malinaggi
     
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  8. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    That's fine to have your own theory, but that doesn't make it legit. Not to mention, HOW is it Williams anyway? Seems random.
     
    Lance_Uppercut, Apr 28, 2011
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  9. J Griz 757

    J Griz 757 Arturo "Thunder" Gatti Full Member

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    Uh I'm pretty sure it's vacant
     
    J Griz 757, Apr 28, 2011
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  10. PNoyFightFanUSN

    PNoyFightFanUSN Larry Don't Give a **** Full Member

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    Floyd is still it. His retirement wasn't legit to begin with, there's no way in hell it's Manny because after the 3 way merry go round of Cotto-Marg-Mosley, Mosley became "the Man" while Floyd was still lineal. He came back still as lineal and re-established his spot without ever really losing lineage.
     
    PNoyFightFanUSN, Apr 28, 2011
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  11. Ripper11

    Ripper11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
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  12. Silent_Assassin

    Silent_Assassin Lightning Full Member

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    Its funny how pac has been beating all the top WW's but at the time all his WW opponents were coming off recent loses n shane was still the top WWW until he was beat by FMJ May of last year.....But I agree wit most its vacant
     
    Silent_Assassin, Apr 28, 2011
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  13. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    He retired whether we all knew he'd be back or not. It counts.
     
    Lance_Uppercut, Apr 28, 2011
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  14. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What top welterweight did Manny beat?

    Oscar wasn't. Cotto wasn't. Clottey certainly wasn't.
     
    PBFred, Apr 28, 2011
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  15. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's vacant, although there's a minority position that says after Mayweather retried, Cotto-Margarito established a new lineage. So some people believe Floyd regained the lineal title against Mosley.
     
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