Why is it so hard for fans to rate Pac & PBF soundly?

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  1. PirateGorilla

    PirateGorilla Active Member Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZiBa0L123k[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpuNg9ZHMZg[/ame]

    There is a reason why Malignaggi thinks Pacquiao is "enhanced" because what he's accomplishing and in the manner he is accomplishing it, is not ordinary.

    Why would you not count his Flyweight title?
     
  2. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Malagnaggi like the other non believers fail to give the possibility of Manny's mentality for the sport as a reason he is able to do what he is.

    People cite Lance Armstrong but racing is a much longer event. if Boxing was 15 rounds it would be more important that is why you don't see other fighters on PED's doing what manny does because there are plenty of fighters that use them.

    Albert Pujols is the in the same boat in baseball. All of baseball knows he is as clean as they come. Maybe people should look at the minds of the two men and see what it is that makes them better than everyone else doing it.
     
  3. PirateGorilla

    PirateGorilla Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not talking about the PED's, I'm talking about what Paulie is saying in regards to Pacquiao's accomplishments.
     
  4. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well he said if Manny beats Cotto he is probably the greatest ever.
     
  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    His point is these guys can't believe it so it's easier for them to cop the PED excuse than to admit how great Pacman is.

    You see Paulie didn't end up admitting to how great Pacman is, he took the ***** way out and said he must have been on PEDs!

    And it's the same for Jordan, but it was much easier believing Jordan was as great, godlike as he was because they got to see it for 16 years or something 82 days out of the year.
     
  6. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:

    Why didn't you mention in your little piece that pac fought oscar at 147 :rofl

    Also just because the scorecards were close doesn't mean the fight was close idiot, how many times do we see bad score cards in boxing :patsch
     
  7. PirateGorilla

    PirateGorilla Active Member Full Member

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    That's gives you an idea of where he holds Pacquiao's accomplishments prior to the fight and the PED accusations just justifies that IMO; because you just don't go around accusing people of PED use if what they are doing is something ordinary.
     
  8. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm sorry but what so great about beating a washed up cotto? I mean I had clottey doing it on my cards.
     
  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's debatable but for a different topic. The point here is how Paulie said that he'd be the greatest if he beat Cotto. So when he does beat Cotto, Paulie's like **** that, no way he can beat Cotto, he musta been juicing.

    Sounds just like your dumbass don't it?
     
  10. PirateGorilla

    PirateGorilla Active Member Full Member

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    I'm surprised you're still posting in these forums with the amount of money you have made.
     
  11. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly. And there lies the difference with Manny. it is his brain. he is a genius in terms of the focus and fluidity he has with his mind and body. He can visualize things in the ring. His mind and body are one in the ring. I have never seen any fighter be able to do this.

    The same reason Paulie had this rant is the reason he can't obtain the level that Manny has. Not to say Paulie isn't a great fighter because Paulie is great.
    You never see Manny losing his cool. All his energy is saved for performing in the ring.
     
  12. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :huh

    I rarely ever bet on boxing matches. Seasonal betting is for chumps.
     
  13. Bladegunner

    Bladegunner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    i couldn't give a **** what paulie says.

    And the only dumb ass on this forum is you.:nut
     
  14. mr. piff

    mr. piff The Ring General Full Member

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    These statements are ones that I do not comprehend exactabox, so hopefully you can clarify them for me.

    Shane catching Floyd with two right hand shots early, in a twelve round fight, does not show vulnerability as you stated. It actually showed the composure of one fighter and the excellent ability to adapt and nullify that particular weapon from being used again.

    It is boxing you know, and going by that statement or logic, would state all boxers are vulnerable because all have been rocked before. Some worst than others, but all have been punched in the face, and handled it to varying degrees. Floyd took those shots excellently and recovered superbly.

    The ODLH fight truly wasn't that close, and we posters here are aware of your boxing knowledge therefore we know you truly do not believe that.

    Lastly If two two rights consist of hicups as you stated, what would you consider a bump in the road, a set back, or not being able to execute your fight plan as instructed by your trainer?

    I know you side with Pac more so than Floyd as being your favorite fighter, but if Pac had fared that well in a fight (two right hands, but other than that pure domination) you would call it a good night.

    Neither fighter career is over yet, so the possibilty for a fight is still present.
     
  15. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd was close to being Knocked out and had that been a fighter who was in better shape not gassed so early I don't think Floyd would have lasted.

    Manny in all his previous bouts at WW was never hurt as badly or wobbled as May was even while being a very cautious fighter. Floyd then did what he had to using his speed to outbox and neutralize the older fighter.

    He will not have his usual luxury of superior speed and conditioning which is what Floyd relies on to win fights. Facing a fighter with both superior speed and conditioning is what Floyd is reluctant to do. There is no way at Floyd's age will he be able to neutralize Manny Pacquiao.