Pavlik vs. Williams in late 2009

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  1. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    How would of this fight played out if it went through?

    @ middleweight of course.
     
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    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Pavlik is all right for Sergio but all wrong for Paul. Mixing and matching those three fighters make for a classic SMF example, I feel. Pavlik by knockout.
     
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    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    I feel the same way.

    Pavlik's weakness is lateral movement and the only time I ever seen Williams use lateral movement was for the first half of the Margarito fight. This would of been an all out war with Pavlik's power against William's volume.

    Makes me so pissed that it didnt happen. When it was signed the second time I just knew the fight will somehow fall apart again.
     
  4. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    alcoholism KO Pavlik round 2!!
     
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    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'd go with Williams, yes he'd get hit but he'd land more himself and he has a pretty good chin Martinez disaster or not
     
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    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    its been so long since these guys were mentioned..

    if pavlik wasn't such an alchy, i would have loved to see the pavlik that KO'd Taylor vs Williams before he got smashed against Maravilla..
     
  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Well, not exactly the classic triangular example if you feel that Martinez rightfully has 2 wins over Williams (or what should have maybe been a draw, and a brutal KO win).

    Then it's just two guys who are each superior h2h to a third guy, and one of the two guys is superior h2h to the other.
     
  8. Nonito Smoak

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    Williams SD with a lot of bitching
     
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    I scored it for Martinez, but let's be real, there was no robbery. That was one of the most thoroughly competitive fights between name fighters we got that year, no? Besides, the comment was about how styles make fights, not about how they make specific winners and losers of the fights. Just how they unfold and why they unfold that way.
     
  10. eagleskins

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    Pavlik easily. Williams no power at all and no defense.
     
  11. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Pavlik in no more than 5 rounds, and in one of the rounds they set a new record for most punches ever thrown in a single round at 160.
     
  12. JMP

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    I think Pavlik would've knocked Williams out in a really exciting fight.
     
  13. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    williams doesnt have a glass jaw, martinez just hit him with a terrific shot, it happens in boxing. I take williams by close decision.
     
  14. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pavlik KOs opponents when they allow him to back them up against the ropes or in the corner. Williams fights in the middle of the ring. Pavlik won't back him up, and Williams' punch output would overwhelm Pavlik. That said, at this point I seriously doubt Pavlik can make 160 without coming into the ring drained.
     
  15. shimmy

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    Pavlik in the late rounds, Williams throws a lot but so does Kelly, and his punches carry far more pop. It probably would take Pavlik 8-10 rounds to get to him and wear him down enough to finish it. Pavlik is one of the better finishers in the game today I feel, he knows how to close it if he can get ya beat down, but certainly not a one punch finisher, but not many are.