about roy jones vs joe frazier

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  1. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    jones had one fight at heavy and his chin didn't show until he went back down in weight. jones didn't have the movement???? i think frazier wins too but your points are not good.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Mismatch.

    Frazier would eat his cornflakes out of Jonses skull.

    In practice Jones would be far to astute to take the fight.
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Jones is lucky he gets caught cleanly early and goes to sleep. If he somehow manages to avoid getting hit cleanly enough on the jaw, his body would be in for one of the most brutal beatings ever seen and he would probably never recover.
     
  4. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    If he gets knocked around by Tarver, theres no doubt he loses to most good heavies, by knockout, no doubt about it. It's just not Jones' weight.
    Yeah he had movement. And thats the thing. We're all going by one fight here so how can you think he's so good against an average guy like Ruiz. Against Frazier he gets slaughtered without a doubt. there's a reason he only had one fight, you know. because he knew he couldn't compete against real good heavyweights that were around at the time. so he decided to beat a limited heavy like Ruiz to pick up a belt. not enough to merit a chance against Frazier or any good heavyweight.
     
  5. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Frazier utterly destroys rjj, body attack then up to the head first good left hook and rjj gets carried out to ambulance.
     
  6. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Joe wasn't that nice, and never a one punch kind of guy at the world class level. (Bob Foster and Ziggy were the closest he ever got to this.) I do agree that the first good hook sends him sprawling, like it did Ziggy, but then he beats on him a little before the kill. Very possible that Roy doesn't hear the bell to end round one. (He'd definitely be hearing a bell though, assuming he hears anything.)
     
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    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Frazier stops him down the stretch.
     
  8. Body Head

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    In HOOK CITY!
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    I think Jones at heavyweight in 1996 - 99 would have been great. Of course, for Holyfield it would have been a no-win situation fighting RJJ before Jones has whipped any heavyweights.
    We can only speculate on what Jones was capable of.
    Personally I think he would have had a good chance against Holyfield at that time, and an even better chance against Tyson or Moorer at that time.
    I obviously rate his chances better than most here.

    However, I don't feel it's at all out of order to say the Frazier who beat Ali would have been too much for Jones, no doubts whatsoever.

    As for Quarry, I would give RJJ a good chance against any version of Jerry. I mean, Jimmy Ellis beat him, and an old Eddie Machen beat him ....... I reckon a prime Jones would have to stand a very strong chance.
     
  10. Shake

    Shake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If there is one fight I would bet my absolute life on, this would be a candidate. Absolutely no shot what-so-ever. Not even a little bit.
     
  11. mckay_89

    mckay_89 Haw you! Full Member

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    Roy Jones is in my top 10 all time favourite fighters, but anyone suggesting he could beat Joe Frazier is off their ****ing head.
     
  12. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Frazier literally breaks Jones Jr in half
     
  13. DaveK

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    Its redundant at this point, but I'll say it anyway: Frazier wins, and it isn't hard for him.
     
  14. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    he didn't fight tarver at heavy. he went back down to light heavy to fight him. how do you not know that but still post here. as far as not facing good heavyweights, jones was in talks to fight lewis after ruiz. lewis is the one who backed out. not because he was ducking roy but he retired. see link below. and to shake, please stay out of the casinos. if you started betting your life i have a feeling you wouldn't be around very long.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/07/03/s...rematch.html?scp=9&sq=roy+jones+lennox&st=nyt
     
  15. DaveK

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    Please, kmac- Lewis would have destroyed Jones and both fighters knew it. Just because they talked on the phone doesn't mean squat. Jones knew better. Why didn't he stay at heavy to fight easier pickings?

    Hde surely would have gotten more money fighting at heavy, even if it was against ranked fighters not named Lewis...Truth is that he knew better than to stick around there.