How do you determine if one fighter is better than another?

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  1. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    Even if they fight each other and are both in top shape, the winner isn't always the better fighter. Example: Tommy Hearns lost twice to Iran Barkley but absolutely nobody thinks Barkley was a better fighter than Hearns.

    What makes one guy definitively better than another?
     
  2. Chrystophilax

    Chrystophilax Active Member Full Member

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    Styles, speeds, staminas, endurances, mental resiliences, heights, intimidation factors, desires, personal dislikes, powers, reactions(es), stances, histories, recent fights ....... make fights. Some fighters are bad against one kind of guy, good against another. It's how they do, or would do, across the board that counts. Hearns would lose to Barklay virtually every time, but he could still kick the butt of many fighters who would be totally wrong for Barklay.
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    you have to consider factors like style or are they fighting in their respective comfortable weight? for example if a fighter is on a stylistic disadvantage but still makes it close losing or gets the win, then it is worth noting that he could be the better fighter.
     
  4. RightHandLead17

    RightHandLead17 Active Member Full Member

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    skills & styles bro'
     
  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    style match ups are important. Too important to just say that the winner of a fight is the better fighter.

    I made the comparison recently between Ali and Norton, and Pacquiao and Marquez.

    In both cases the better fighter came out almost even with a lesser fighter.

    You judge every fighter by his entire body of work.
     
  6. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    If you like them more then they are better.
     
  7. levluger

    levluger Active Member Full Member

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    Well styles make fights but... Skills and accomplishments would be the contributing factors of who's better.
     
  8. Blake Rayne

    Blake Rayne Fat Cuban Aficianado Full Member

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    And this is what makes Boxing so great. So many variables in a sport with just 2 competitors. Long Live Boxing!
     
  9. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    So performance against common opponents with a variety of styles is a better determiner of superiority than a head to head matchup?
     
  10. Peppermint

    Peppermint Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Better is subjective. More successful would be determined by a fighters resume and accomplishments.
     
  11. WatchfortheHook

    WatchfortheHook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I assume you mean in the all-time sense? Like Hearns being unanimously regarded as better than Iran Barkley in spite of Barkley beating Hearns twice is because Hearns did things like knocked out Roberto Duran in 2 rounds, fought Sugar Ray Leonard to a draw(many believe he won), was ahead on the cards against Leonard in the first fight before being stopped, etc. In short, if you mean whos better in an all-time sense....resumes is the answer.
     
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    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    Resume, the interpretation of which is also pretty subjective.
     
  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    To subjective. The main criteria is body of work. If they fight each other in their primes, with an even body of work, you'd give the edge to the winner. But mainly body of work.
     
  14. levluger

    levluger Active Member Full Member

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    Yup and your avatar is a perfect example. We all know Morales is/was a better fighter than Maidonna will ever be, however he lost the match. What makes him greater is resume, skill, etc... Just because the shell of Morales lost to Maidonna doesn't mean he's a lesser fighter.
     
  15. rccwilliams

    rccwilliams Sippin' on some sizzurp Full Member

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    Skin color and bicep size, generally.