Pacq: An Overrated Media Creation?

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  1. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This article is ****. I do agree in a way that he is a media hyped fighter. Just for the simple fact that people rate him higher than he is suppose to be. Top 10 atg? No way in hell.
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    actually, it was pac who created buboy. didn't know this actually and has been following his fights since he was a teen. watch fight camp 360 episode 3.
     
  3. jmmpbf

    jmmpbf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Havent seen any of the 360 episodes, but yea Buboy was following the wrong path in life, something like that, and Pac took him in, But in the ring Buboy translates what Roach coaches lol. :rofl
     
  4. DanishPride

    DanishPride Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Can you explain to me why he is not a top 10 atg?, becuase pac has preatty much beat every record there is. Even if we took pac in the old weight classes.
     
  5. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ^^It's also covered in his documentary from 2004. The back story on Buboy from EP3 was pretty good though. Manny splitting his rations with Buboy who had nothing at the time and for a while... that's some friendship there.
     
  6. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So your saying he is a top 10 atg based on weight classes? Weight classes are cool but a fighters resume is more important. You cannot look at Manny's resume and believe he is a top 10 atg. I don't consider Sugar Ray Leonard a top 10 atg and his resume is better than Manny's. People don't know how hard it is to be considered a top 10 atg in todays era. Also in eight weight classes Manny has cleaned out no weight class. His weight class jump is cool but I consider what Armstrong did far more impressive. Just look at any atg list and compare their careers to Manny's and you will know there is no comparison.
     
  7. DanishPride

    DanishPride Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are so wrong.

    Greatness is based on resume and records broked. Manny is topping all of those charts.

    And I cant belivee you actually quistioning his resume compare pacquiao resume to SRL and pacquiao makes SRL look like a schoolboy.

    Manny Pacquiao resume is rocksolid yea his last 2-3 fight havent been that great but who cares its his hole caree we speaking about.

    Btw dont give me the catchweight crap SRL actually got more cacthweight fights then Pacquiao

    And how in gods name can you rate Armstrong higher then pacquiao when he is done the same as Armstrong and succede it.

    Nahh you bias to the oldschool fighters is clouding you jugdment.

    Its like my grandad when he lived he allways sayd that the 40-50 football(soccer) players was much better then today and then michael laudrup came along and he was still saying that michael laudrup was not as good as the goold old danish football players.. Btw if you dont know michael laudrup is one of the greatest playmakers in football(soccer) ever

    Nahh history speaks for itself. Unless you very bias towards the oldschool fighters you got no case not placing Pacquiao in the top 10 ATG.
     
  8. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I highly doubt im biased against todays fighters. Im real young myself. I respect your opinion but I guarantee you most people wont agree with it. Me personally, I think you are crazy to say Manny has a better resume the SRL. He def hasn't accomplished what Armstrong has. You wont find anyone agreeing to that. He resume doesn't stack up and that is how I see it.
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    you should watch at least the episode 3, i think it's quite good compared to episode 1 and episode 2. yeah i don't know if he is exactly tanslating or just shouting in bisaya the words of roach or his very own instructions. :lol:

    yeah, i probably missed that documentary. the backstory was quite touching and almost made my eyes watery :lol:. over-all the third episode is a blast and had me pumped-up for this fight for whatever it's worth.
     
  10. DanishPride

    DanishPride Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Look who SRL fought and then compare it to Manny Pacquiao.


    SRL fought only 40 fights and he only meet 3 great boxers. Hearns, Duran, Haggler and I dont even count haggle since he was well off his prime basically like pac vs Mosley

    The 37 other fighters was against nobodies.

    And what you mean by Manny havent accomplished what Armstrong has? Manny done the exact same thing won as many weight division as Armstrong and more. You could say yea but Armstrong fought way more fights and thats right. but boxing then and boxing now is not the same. Back then they allmsot fought once a week. So you also have to assume that the opposition wasnt that great. But personally I rate Pacquiao higher then Armstrong simple becuase Manny Pacquiao done the same and more and this is in modern boxing age where all his opponents are well trained and rested. But thats a long debate its hard to call.

    But Illl like you to tell me why you dont think pacquaio belongs in the top 10 ATG list if you go by records and resume.
     
  11. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hearns, Benitez, and Duran shits on Manny's resume. Armstrong held 3 belts simultaneously. He went directly from feather to welter and won a belt. Also there were only 8 divisions when he fought instead of 17. He has beaten better fighters than Manny and accomplished way more. In no order 1. Ali 2. Robinson 3. Armstrong 4. Pep 5. Duran 6. Herb 7. Langford 8. Benny Leonard 9. Ezzard Charles 10. Archie Moors have more impressive careers than Manny. I can't believe I even needed to explain that.
     
  12. rauer2

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    Ah, hey guys- never intended to disrespect and/or harm anyone with the article. Filipino with the "P" is correct, as the letter "F" was never in the original Tagalog language- and the people in my family always use "P".

    Also, I am a big Manny fan. I don't blame him entirely- I think Arum is the main culprit- but at some point in your career you have to stand up and stop taking these fights. When was the last time Pacq fought someone who was on the top 10 p4p list at the time of the fight? It was probably JMM or Morales before that. These constant feeder fish that Arum throws in the tank is tiresome. Just an opinion. I absolutely respect what everyone writes on here- this is why we all visit ESB.

    Anyway- hope you all are doing well, best wishes, and enjoy the OBL news.
     
  13. DanishPride

    DanishPride Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wow you really uneduated buddy..

    Hearns, Benitez, Duran beat more ATG then manny has ok who???

    And archie Moors lol how many ATG wins does he got??

    You a ****ing idiot and know nothing about boxing go look at who these fighters fought and then look at Manny resume and you will see there even. I think the only one who fought more ATG then Manny is SRR.

    Nahh people are so bias towards the oldschool fighters and I feel a fighter today have to go all the way from flyweigth to heavyweight to impress some of you muppets.

    Check records broke check World titles, Check number of wins over ATG and you will see Manny is easy in top 10.
     
  14. left right left

    left right left Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nahh.. The overrated hype today is Mayweather. GOAT ****.
     
  15. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    how come this troll gets to write for a news station? :lol: