Vitali V Wlad: From a historical perspective

Bowe's resume is much, much better than Wlad's

 

No. He has the better top win(s) but in terms of depth Wlad´s is better by a mile. He also has better longevity and overall more dominant during his reign.

 

Kinda off topic, but on one top ten list in boxing news were it was fighters with the same names fighting, and one was an unbeaten prospect's dad becoming pro and fighting him over training issue's ,,, and the best bit is, the dad won !

 

Wlad has depth to his resume? :huh Give me a ****ing break.

 

He has longevity and dominance, intertwined, over the most **** poor era of Heavyweight boxing, since blacks weren't allowed to fight for titles. Bowe's top 10 wins are worth more than Waldo's entire resume

 

You know, when me and my brother were in our teens and twenties we use to fight each other for free..lol

I'm sure if both of us could actually haven't gotten paid to do it, we'd have both jumped at the chance.

That said, I know not everybody does this and at the professional level it's a different ball game and I certainly don't hold it against either of them that they don't want to fight each other.

 

Bowe's top 10 Ring wins:

Holyfleld I
Holyfield III
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Golota II
Gonzales

Wlad's top 10 Ring wins:

Byrd I
Byrd II
Chageav
Chambers
Sultan
McCline
Peter I
Brock
Brewster
Thompson

Evander I is the only win I would comfortably put above anything on Wlad's resume.

 

Some absolute **** gets Ring rankings these days. :verysad

 

Bowe's time at the top isn't much to write about either. He didn't have to beat a single Ring Ranked Opponent to earn his title shot. Outside of the Evander rematch he lost, his only serious defense was against Ferguson because the upcoming contenders Mercer and Morrison were such god awful busts. His other year at the top 94-95 was abmysal with Foreman lineal Champion, Evander retired, Lewis out of the picture, and Tyson in prison.

 

Holyfield x2
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Golota x2
Mathis Jr
Bert Cooper
Thomas
Tubbs
Biggs
Seldon
Coetzer

only Byrd is better than half these guys. Only Chagaev is better than a couple.

 

Brave talk from someone has been proven to lie about watching fights.

If the shoe fits....

Everyone on that list save Thompson and Peter actually earned their ranking by beating another ranked fighter. Peter would at least go on to claim three top 5 scalps. But as a non-boxing fan, you wouldn't know that.

 

-No disputing Holyfield I as a super win. Holyfield III...he was a mess physically, still good win I would put on par with Byrd II.


-Golota only ranked by Ring after giving Bowe a hard time in the first match
-Mathis Jr was never ranked by Ring
-Bert Cooper was a gatekeeper :?, I know. Not ranked.
-Tubbs was a gatekeeper at this stage. Never ranked by Ring.
-Thomas...washed up. Ranked years previously. Should I list Mercer or Jefferson for Wlad than?
-Biggs ranked years prior to Bowe fight.
-Seldon..entered rankings in 95 as paper Champion and today's are bad?
-Coetzer not ranked.

Byrd is better than all these guys when Bowe fought them, hell maybe even at their best. Draw aside in their actual meeting, I would put Byrd above Golota overall.

 

In a vastly superior era, you forget to add. Not to mention Bowe would whoop dat ass. Not to mention his opponents would whoop Wlad's opponent asses too

 

91 was strong with lots of promise but s**t hit the fan soon after. 92-95 were horrible years for HW boxing outside of Bowe/Holyfield Trilogy. I remember these years as well, believe me, anyone trying to follow the division at the time wouldn't be calling this the golden years. I know on paper you see names like Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Ruddock, Moorer, Foreman, Mercer..but it really doesn't tell the whole story.

As the Champions of this period, Bowe and Holyfield were forced to defend their title against Holmes, Ferguson, Doakes, and Bert Cooper because Tyson was out of the picture and Morrison/Mercer couldn't win get past Ferguson and Bentt.

Ruddock and Lewis might as well have been in another universe. Ruddock fell off the map after their fight and Lewis walked into McCall just when things finally opened up for him.

Moorer didn't face anybody serious save the injured Holyfield in a stinker and Foreman(which great story as it was didn't give the division much credibility)

Your fantasy fight predictions don't mean much..sorry.