Randy Couture vs. Rickson Gracie

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  1. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wanted to ask the MMA board how it thinks this fight would have played out...Two legends.
     
  2. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    randy UD or rickson by rnc
     
  3. rekcutnevets

    rekcutnevets Black Sash Full Member

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    These guys are from two different eras, so it would depend on the circumstances.

    Early in Couture's career, around the time Rickson was still active: Randy would not have the submission knowledge to prevent Rickson from submitting him, and I don't think Randy would refrain from taking Rickson down. I think Rickson would submit him.

    Peak versions of each fighter under today's rules: Randy never takes Rickson down, and wins by wide decision, if not a stoppage. Remember, Rickson will want the clinch but has little chance to get the take down. There will be numerous breaks and re-entries, and Couture will have lots of opportunities to over power and deal out damage in the clinch.

    Peak versions under early UFC rules: A fight longer than Royce vs Severn, and Rickson will not have to close the distance nearly as often with no sort of stand-ups or breaks. Rickson would have to withstand a severe clinch beating, and would probably take at least a half hour to get the fight to the ground. I believe Rickson would submit Couture after close to an hour of audience hating style grappling.
     
  4. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks for the sound analysis.:good
     
  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Rickson by submission.

    Its a real shame Rickson`s son died just as there was major talk of Sakuraba v Rickson when Sak was the p4p best, Rickson lost his drive for fighting when that happened... this fight would have told us everything we needed to know about Rickson Gracie - who by most accounts is the best BJJ grappler of the past 3 decades.
     
  6. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    old man randy all the way.
     
  7. MaliSlamusrex

    MaliSlamusrex Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Depends when the fight took place, at the beginning Rickson would have destroyed him, if the evolved Randy would fight him now Randy would win, Rikson used BJJ to finish fights in minutes because no one had any clue how to stop him. Now people do.
     
  8. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    Yea man agreed but since rickson mma has evolved and now wrestling is the top tier style not bjj anymore.
     
  9. Beekeeper

    Beekeeper Bedtime Story, Aoki Style Full Member

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    How does the Silva-Sonnen fight fit into this?
     
  10. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Randy would beat the **** out of Rickson from the clinch.
     
  11. Stoo

    Stoo Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    This is about right, great post
     
  12. EPNG

    EPNG New Member Full Member

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    Presumably this is 97; Couture loses via RNC or armbar. I've always thought Roger and Rolls were/are better tha Rickson. And Fernando Terere is better than any Gracie.
     
  13. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with this. Depends on which Couture if its late 90s or early 2000s Couture vs peak Rickson then I dont this fight goes much different then when Overeem and Inoue submitted Couture back then. Id say any verison of Couture from about 03-04 on would be to much. Couture already had the wrestling skills and the GNP and by then he added Jiujitsu techniques and some great submission defense. Couture beats him down on the ground and gets a late stoppage.
     
  14. Ai-edy2007

    Ai-edy2007 STOCKTON 209 MOTHER****ER Full Member

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    HAHA yea that was funny.
     
  15. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Terere must have been thinking that as Roger choked him...