Victor Ortiz is Floyd's first veteran vs. young lion test

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  1. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Young champions such as Floyd when he was first crowned usually face older or same aged competition, and it takes a good few years to actually grow older than the competition. Jr. was always this young and fresh dude and it might come to you as a surprise he's a full decade older than his rumored opponent, Victor Ortiz.

    The big factor that is not being discussed in this latest ******* vs. ***** war is that Ortiz would be Floyd's first veteran vs. young lion test with Jr. him being the old guy at the end of his career and Vic being youngster trying to make one. Historically fighters a decade younger win the vast majority of these showdowns and Ortiz is coming in at the high point of his young career, full of energy, confidence and comfort at the weight, with the kind of newfound 'never give up' mentality Floyd himself stormed through his career with.

    Biological and ring age are obviously different things, but fighting a young lion is a new kind of mental challenge for Mayweather, the pressure is on him to perform at his best, but he might be physically unable to, and the youngster knows this and pushes even harder in the gym to bring the battle tested veteran to a point where it's too much.

    People not living in 2007 realize this rumored fight is a very dangerous one for Floyd. Stylistically and skills wise of course Mayweather should be the favorite, but this is a punishing sport that does not take it easy on the aging. If the fight which might just be an internet fabrication does happen in September, a 34yo Mayweather 1,5 years out of the ring will take on a 24yo young champion who just scored his career-best victory, and factors that are not visible in a boxrec record or past tapes might play a big part. With Pac-JMM almost done, much respect to Floyd for putting the World WW Championship on the line vs. the young lion, at least I hope rumors will become reality come Saturday afternoon.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member

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    what about Bruseles
     
  3. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What about him?
     
  4. Uncle Rico

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    You’re seriously undervaluing the importance of skill, and you’re seriously underestimating the remarkable physical condition Floyd gets himself into - even today at 34.

    We can push the ‘The Old Veteran vs The Young Lion’ tag all we want, but the honest truth is, this Young Lion isn’t even fit to tie the Old Veteran’s shoes, and will suffer a wide, embarrassing, one-sided loss.

    Oh, and I'm an Ortiz fan.

    By the way, what's happening on Saturday afternoon? :huh

    Oh, and another thing, I thought the Pac-JMM fight is only happening if the Mayweather fight doesn't happen? So with that in mind, no, Floyd shouldn't get 'much respect' for putting it on the line against Ortiz. Because he should be putting it on the line against Pacquiao, instead!
     
  5. happydrinks

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  6. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dangerous fight for Floyd to come back on. Anyone Ortiz lands clean they fall.
     
  7. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Press conference I believe.

    BTW I did not predict anything for this fight just pointed out that it's a situation Floyd's never been in, you can either accept or deny that age is a factor, it is. HOW MUCH is the question and if it will play a significant part. Him being the much more skilled and accoplished fighter is stated in the first post. All I'm saying there's a little more into this.
     
  8. shenmue

    shenmue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It would be a good win for Floyd (and easy win though) especially with people now overrating Ortiz after beating the even more overrated Berto.
     
  9. Uncle Rico

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    Age is a factor, but not a very big one. There's not much more to this than a highly skilled fighter vs a flawed, inexperienced young one. This will be reflected in the fight, I'm sure of it.
     
  10. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think it will be an easy win, especially coming off a year laid off. Ortiz got a good chin, power, and speed. At this point of his career he is more dangerous than Mosley. He will not be easy to discourage. i have always thought Ortiz is a hell of a fighter.
     
  11. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    I hope this fight happens.
    Ortiz will prove to be more than a tune-up, Floyd better be 100%.
    (Again assuming this is a possibility)

    @35 (Mayweather age), Ortiz will be a handfull for Floyd.
     
  12. zicas

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    :rofl
    why the **** is this funny
     
  13. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not many thought age would be a big factor coming into the Roy-Tarver fights. Compare the Floyd of Mosley to the Floyd of Chico or Judah and add another 1,5 years of age and inactivity. My point remains: it WILL be a factor. How significant is what we don't know, historically however 'little' would put Mayweather in the minority. We'll see I hope.
     
  14. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    why are we talking about this fight as if it's happening?
     
  15. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Good call, Bone.

    Ortiz is no longer inexperienced, imo. And how much of a factor is it? The last time Floyd fought a young, top welterweight was...before his retirement. Years ago. Maybe we don't know how much of a factor it is unless or until it happens. :conf

    Boxrec is never wrong about anything, Noob! :fire