Ali - toughness

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  1. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83VMQkKz0P0[/ame]

    Both physically and mentally, general toughness, is there anyone tougher than Ali?

    He probably believed he could defeat Holmes and Berbick. Throughout his career, he fought the very best at the time, some of the best of all time. He took on all the monsters.
     
  2. left right left

    left right left Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And he still retains his world-wide popularity. One of a kind.. the one and only.
     
  3. RockyJim

    RockyJim Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali didn't know when to quit....look at him now....Marciano retired in April 1956 before his powers diminished...
     
  4. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    I shed a few tears watching that.

    I still don't think Holmes took it remotely "easy" on him at all, he was mercilessly beating the helpless old shell of Ali with vicious combinations. :verysad

    Larry should've just used his jab to win rounds.
     
  5. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We can't really blame Holmes for not taking it easy. He was in a fight,after all. In a horrible way that fight was yet another demonstration of how tough Muhammad really was. Dosed up to the eyeballs on Thyrolar,had already got Parkinson's and had been two years out of the ring at 38 years of age. And yes,I agree that it was a myth that Holmes took it easy at any point in that bout.
     
  6. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You better believe its a myth, although at the same time i dont blame Holmes for doing his job.

    Yeah seen this the other day when Scully put it up on his Facebook, very emotional it is too. Lap it all up while we can cos when this guy goes there'll never be another. I cant understand the hatred he gets on this forum sometimes, i mean, theres rapists who havent recieved the hate Ali gets here
     
  7. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    How many of the greats of boxing knew when to quit? It's an elite group for sure..I can only think of a handfull.
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    It may have been relatively merciful if it was Tyson rather than Holmes that he fought at the end.
     
  9. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good Almost like the qualities that get these guys to the top also stop them from knowing when to go.
     
  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Man, that's the truth!
     
  11. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's too mainstream
     
  12. Valane

    Valane Active Member Full Member

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    That is the harsh reality of boxing. You have to be prepared to destroy others and to take that in kind.

    And yes Ali was one of the toughest fighters that ever lived.
     
  13. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Oh i understand that, what i cant understand is that some on here who i take it are boxing enthusiasts, cant see through that and just admire the guy for his obvious talent
     
  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Amongst the mentally toughest men i've seen box.

    But that's such a subjective opinion of perhaps the most difficult intangible.
     
  15. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oh, I absolute admire him for his talent, his career and what he did for boxing. He was and still is a huge figure. Perhaps the only boxer you can say that was bigger than boxing. :deal
    And yeah, he is amongst the toughest mentally and physically. I think Jack Johnson rivals him in the mental part though. :thumbsup

    Nevertheless, I despise him as a person. For getting so easy manipulated, for his racism, for what he did to Frazier and his family ... :verysad