Old Fighters versus New... Who was tougher?

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  1. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    :lol:

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    I agree. The toughest of the ancients must have been beastly tough.
     
  2. McGrain

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    If we're winging away from boxing, can't it also be said to be a geographical as well as generational thing?

    Some of those ****ing Sierra Leoneise, Afghans or Somalians would likely make a really good piano out of your rib-cage, for example.
     
  3. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know NOTHING about Dempsey. Aren't you the idiot that thinks the girl beating ***** Tony Ayala is great? Just shut the **** up.
     
  4. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    It's only generational in the sense of First Worlders whose grandparents suffered through the World War's and the Great Depression. It's really the same old thread of desperate conditions make desperate people. A couple generations of affluence in Sierra Leone and they would be as soft as the rest of us.
     
  5. janitor

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    I guess that if we started a thread questioning whether old timers or modern fighters had the advantage of being able to order a piza, you would try to find some way to spin it in favour of the modern fighters.
     
  6. Pachilles

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    :huhNo, i'm that guy that controvertially believes that Prime Tyson would SD Duran atleast 1/8
     
  7. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    are you saying modern fighters dont have an easier time ordering pizza??:huh

    Because if anything, telephone communication and internet acces has devolved since 1900
     
  8. PowerPuncher

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    Ray Leonard and Marco Antonio Barrera grew up in middle class homes, what pussies they were
     
  9. PowerPuncher

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    Fighters from NYC, Philli and Chicago must have been pretty poor due to the increased availability of pizza
     
  10. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Imagine having to live through the bubonic plague at full blast in Europe? :scaredas:
     
  11. mattdonnellon

    mattdonnellon Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    One could always die I suppose.
     
  12. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    no doubt thats why he was scared stiff of a real hood mufu

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  13. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I think at least some working people today are suffering in a way comparable to the way they were in the 40's, especially in this economy combined with facing social service cuts. It's not like the welfare state provides unemployed people with a real living wage and housing. I also don't think it's bad that newer generations don't publicly celebrate the bombing of a foreign population, but that's just me.


    I think that on average a fighter was tougher because the smaller gloves, longer rounds, more liberal refereeing, and in some cases harsher childhood environments (particularly for working class immigrants) made it more necessary for a tough man to succeed. If you transported a lot of fighters today to that era, I think a good deal would fade out. Either you had to be more ruggedly prepared, or the game made you tougher, or both; in any case, I think evidence points to older fights having it tougher. That's not to say though that a lot of fighters today wouldn't be able to adapt. Real champions would fight to the death. I have no problem seeing Duran, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Pacquiao, Marquez, even De La Hoya, being able to prove their hearts in the ring.
     
  14. thistle1

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    thats true, did anybody see the Documentary where a 6' odd feet American Extreme Athlete challenged himself to the trials of a Shirpa (spelling), Mountain Porter in the Himilayas?

    the 5'6, 7" skinny little Shirpas SMOKED HIM, he couldn't do it!!!

    tough circumstances make for harder men, combine yesteryears hardmen with top boxing skill/level and fitness, then you've got real greats!
     
  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. Full Member

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    The conditions of life itself were tougher back then. No air conditioning. Manual labor was required to do many tasks. Poor health / medicine standards. Ring conditions were difficult as fighters lacked quality equipment. The fights often took place in the heat of the afternoon, or a smoky filled arena. 20 rounds or more was common.