Mexicans vs Chicanos

... He's such a tool!

 

THat could go either way guy... On the the streets i wouldnt say Mexican nationals are tougher than Chicanos. I know i would take 10 Cholos over 10 day laborers or construction workers in a street fight and it wouldnt even be close.,. YOu could also say Chicanos are American fed and naturally bigger/healthier,as well as many having that street tough mentality,and most of the Mexicanos(nationals) are just hard working guys who arent into being '"bad ass" like lot of Chicanos..For the most part this is how i usually see it.
Im not saying its the general rule as some Mexicanos are some badass mutha****ers, and a lot of Chicanos are laid back,but on average this is how it goes.

As far as professional boxing well yey there has been more great Mexican nationals but, there is also over a 100 million Mexican Nationals and about 25 to 30 million Mex/americans... Per capita id say Mexican/nationals are not any better... I think the fighters from Mexico are more hungry and that is a huge advantage.. Id say overall on average Mexican Americans have better boxing skills and usually are not just pure sluggers. Alot of that has to do with many fighters coming up in an American amatuer program with alot of the same American style... Combine that and the style many of their trainers there home gyms have taught them (old school Mexican style). Bottom line though is Chicano fighters still have that Azteca Warrior heart and want to fight like the toe to toe warriors from Mexico too... Think about it most of the quality Chicano fighters have a combo of both styles Delahoya,Tapia,Vargas,Chacon,Mares,Hernandez,Rios,Ortiz,Carbajal,Canizales
etc etc all have a combo of Mexico and US styles.

 

Send a Los Zetas member to any Cali prison and he will be a shotcaller with the Paisas(Mexican Nationals).. But he wont have nothing on a ranking Sureno.

 

Anarci you are the only guy I know on ESB that has actually gone to real prison so I really don't care what they think.

 

lol@this
anyone who knows anything knows that even the cartels out in mexico are taxed by eme...theres alot more to it then what is just shown on gangland

 

california makes them soft...

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JM. Marquez Vs. R. Guerrero:

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by SD
(Current, JMM against Current "Ghost"... Sadly Juan's time is coming to an end, AGE)

M. Vasquez Vs. Rios: "Bam Bam"

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by TKO
(I like the rugged Rios to make a late charge & take the late rds in a grinding finish)

Salido Vs. M. Garcia:

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(Still think Garcia is a bit green to mess w/Salido or that particular style)

Alvarez Vs. Ortiz 150 catchweight: I'd take

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by K.O.
(Alvarez don't strike me as a fighter who would back up from Vic, I'd love to watch this)

JC Chavez Vs. De La Hoya 140 Prime:

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/TKO/D
(Chavez can deal w/Oscar's speed & power, Chavez breaks him down to the body)

Margarito Vs. Vargas 154 prime:

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(Margarito from the Pac fight I assume Vs. a prime Vargas... toss-up, IMO)

 

Not Anarci Maybe you should come out to Cali and find out for your self:yep

 

no your **** homie befor you talk who is holding runs the street period surenos an nf all get theres from the source just saying

 

Marquez wins a close decision in a tough fight.
Rios edges him very cloise decision
:think Tough one might go with Salido .. Dont know how Garcias chin is if hes got a good beard he might eeker out a close one. Or Salido stops him late.

Canelo and ORtiz :think Pickem at catchweight like Ortiz at ww and Saul at Jm though.

Hmmm I rank Chavez higher pfp.. at 140 though i think Oscar might edge him close decision over 12 rounds. Oscar wins most of the early rounds and some mid rounds. Chavez comes on late and puts a hurting on him to make it close.. Over 12 Odlh decision.. Over 15 Chavez late tko.

Prime Vargas wins a comfortable decision, Margarito gives him all he wants in the late rounds though. Could also see Vargas stopping him too.

 

Juan Manuel Marquez vs Robert Guerrero- JMM by close UD (115-113/116-112 area)

Miguel Vasquez vs Brandon Rios- Miguel Vazquez by wide UD (118-110/119-109 area)

Orlando Salido vs Mikey Garcia- Orlando Salido by UD (116-112/117-111 area)

Canelo Alvarez vs Victor Ortiz 150 catchweight- Canelo Alvarez by KO

Julio Cesar Chavez vs Oscar De La Hoya 140 Prime- Oscar De La Hoya by close UD

Antonio Margarito vs Fernando Vargas 154 prime- Fernando Vargas by UD

These just off the top of my head I fancy the real mexicans beating the Chicanos 4-2.

 

Yey but in the pen.. Paisas are allied with Sur.. Not NF.

 

How about some of these matches

Chacon vs Morales at Fw or JL
Tapia vs Rafa Marquez at Bw
Mando Ramos vs Jose L Ramirez Lw
OLivares vs Manuel Ortiz at Bw
Carbajal vs Ricardo Lopez at Jfly
Arreoa vs Manuel Ramos at Hw
Bj Flores vs Saul Montana at Cr
Cuevas vs Palomino at WW (Palomino born in MExico raised Cali since a kid)
Yaqui Lopez vs Andrade at LH (both born in Mexico raised in Cali)
Tony Ayala vs Margarito at JM
Danny Lopez vs Barrera at Fw

 

:think I'll have to sleep on these...
(I'll get back @ this tomorrow) Great fight's.

 

Right now I would say Marquez in a close one, Rios in a decision, Garcia in a KO, Ortiz via Ko, De La hoya via KO , and Vargas via decision.

so i got the mexican americans winning 5-1