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Briefly
Maxim
Angott
Fullmer

 

I love all three..and they're all so distinctly different from one another...hell, Fullmer is twice as different from the other two, stylistically that is. It would go like this
Angott
Fullmer
Maxim..
Fullmer edges out Maxim ever so barely because he had a more protractedly successful time at or near the top than Joey...having two championship reigns...Angott, I must confess, was rated first by me based on his points victory over Pep, which intrigues me no end, as well as the balance of his time at or near the top, in which he was always a troublesome, crafty fighter who acquitted himself quite well.

 

I find it hard to split Angott, and Maxim, but ,looking closer at their records, Angott often held weight advantages over his opponents, the reverse is true of Maxim,I think Fullmer is overated.

 

I think there a some similarities between the styles of Maxim and Angott..both were somewhat virtuosos of negativity, much like the guy in my avatar..and for some reason, I love these type fighters..Angott was quite a dilemna for the fighters of his day, and am I right, or did he do rather well against SRR despte losing?

 

Alll pretty close especially Angott and Fullmer, i have Angott by the slightest margin though, both had a their share of losses(mostly against excellent fighters), and although Maxim had some big wins he also struggled more with not so great guys... I like Angotts wins a little more, altough Fullmer is right there.
Angott
Fullmer
Maxim

 

:deal

 

Joey Maxim beat prime versions of Sugar Ray Robinson, Jersey Joe Walcott, and Floyd Patterson. This alone easily rates him over Gene Fullmer.

 

Patterson only had 13 fights and was fighting at around super mw at the time and only 19 years old how are you gonna say he was in his primeatsch And the fight was controversial at that... JerseyJoe wasnt in his prime either, Jersey Joe actually didnt hit his prime till he got older, he lost to a lot of guys you wouldnt think he should have when he was younger, still good win,but Jersey Joe was not in his prime.. And we know the heat beat Robinson..

Im not trying to take anything away from Maxim , he was a great fighter with alot of other great wins, but your comment was off the mark.

 

I'll have to think about how I rate them on strictly accomplishments but off the top of my head:

Accomplishments only:
1. Angott
2. Fullmer
3. Maxim (Unless you're going strictly by on paper wins, and not taking the Robinson and Patterson wins into context)

H2H only:

1. Fullmer - He'd always win more decisions because of his style and he's just as durable as the other two, so he could afford to take more risk anyway and come out on top.
2. Angott
3. Maxim (but I'm having trouble separating them and if it were on tiers, they'd be on the same tier for me, Angott and Maxim)

Overall:

1. Angott
2. Fullmer
3. Maxim

No Italian American bias from me, Boxed. Unlike your outlandish Black Russian bias. Also notice how I followed your instructions. I'm good people.

 

You are entirely correct,.and Angott has probably the better resume, it's just that he often had the weight advantage.
If I am honest , I could not split them.
But the thread has served its purpose,it has made those of us who engaged, look a lttle more closely at these boys records.:good

 

Yes, and frankly it was a surprise to see the three grouped together for the purpose of a thread..really a surprise to see Fullmer men tioned with the other two..it made for an interesting thread subject.:good

 

I'll be honest here, I don't know that much about Angott, but here is my attempt at rating them.

Accomplishments

1. Fullmer - He was a long-time Middleweight champion with wins over some of the best contenders in his day, and he boxed in a very deep division.
2. Maxim - Was a top-ranked Light-Heavyweight in a very deep division, tried his luck at Heavyweight and then finally became Light-Heavyweight champion. He has good wins at every stage of the way but lacked real dominance at any time IMO.
3. Angott - Not really looked at his record, obviously he has the win over Pep, but I don't think he established any real dominance at his own weight, and Maxim edges him by virtue of his Heavyweight work.

On a H2H basis

1. Fullmer - An awkward rugged customer, although I feel his ring intelligence and ability to stick to a gameplan is underrated. He had a good job that held together his rugged, seemingly uneducated attacks. I feel he is a handful for most Middleweights.
2. Maxim - A very traditional boxer. He had a really good jab and nice lateral movement with solid technicial skills to rely on. He could slip, block and parry with the best of them. He probably gives all Light-Heavyweights problems but wouldn't beat that many of the elite, despite giving them a good go.
3. Angott - A very close third here. On film he looks alright. He has nice fast feet and hands, and his tag as a 'defensive spoiler' is slightly unfair. From the footage we see, he uses his fast hands and feet to blaze forward with flurries then rush in and tie his man up, therefore 'spoiling' the fight. Again, he falls into Maxims category of giving everyone a good go, but not quite beating the elite.

Out of the three of them

1. Fullmer
2. Maxim
3. Angott

 

Maxims win over Walcott dozen't hold up to well when researched.

http://news.google.com/archivesearc...6/12&sugg=d&scoring=a&hl=en&um=1&sa=N&start=0

 

Now stop that!!:nono