Pac overtrained or past his prime?

mayweather wouldnt come after pac even if he got run over by a bus then shot 13 times then tossed out from an airplane at 13,000 ft and landed head first

 

We all know he gets frustrated against moving fighters, nothing new, we've just seen to many Pac's recent fights against stationary bigger guys who are slow and arent skilled enough to move out the way of Mannys punches, Manny able to throw 1000-12000 punches in all different angles, simply move and he wont. plain and simple.

When was the last time he fought a fighter who actually moved out the way? Shane did, Margarito didnt, Clottey didnt, Cotto did in the first round, Hatton didnt, DLH didnt, Marquez did, Morales did on the first fight, Solis did, we can go way back. He doesnt respond well against moving fighters, he likes to brawl because of hes speed and power, negate that he dont look that great.

 

He still better than Margarito, Clottey, Cotto, Hatton and De La Hoya.

 

Pacquiao has looked like he's been slowing down since after the Cotto fight. I've said it in the past and my opinion hasn't changed. The handspeed and legs aren't where they used to be, which is expected with his age and the weight. BTW, Clottey and Cotto (at the time Pacquiao fought them) are very arguably better than the Mosley from last night.

 

Neither. Pac looked better than he did against Margo.

 

He just didn't want to hurt Mosley bad, that's all... Mosley is a shot fighter and his body language was worrying after the kd.

Pac told before the fight thet he prays for nobody get hurt during the fight. Mosley is a nice guy outsside the ring, so Pac really didn't went after Shane from round 4. He just controled the pace, like in sparing...

So it's difficult to judge if Pac's overtrained or past his prime in this fight!

 

Yeah, I was being sarcastic. I can't help but laugh at all of these guys calling Pac 'exposed', or 'over the hill'. Yet, Floyd still won't fight him.


I don't think Pac overtrained, and he is definitely past prime, but, not much.

I think the fight was boring because Mosley was scared of getting KO'd, and Pac decided to go easy on him. I also believe that pac was suffering from cramps. You can see him jumping and moving his legs to loosen them in the corner after round 4.

 

Both. He only won every round and dropped an iron chinned fighter in the process. Shane is shot to **** and he was never willing to engage especially after he felt that power. He was effective at circling away from pacs left anf staying off the ropes..

 

Pac didnt look good because for the 1st time since Marquez he fought a guy that never came forward thinking he was the `bigger guy` & try to overwhelm Manny.

Pac will always look great vs come forward fighters & will IMO never be fully comfortable being made to box, given movemen & jabbed at.

If Mosely went in there trying to go to war & take Pac out you would have seen the same Manny that you saw from Diaz-Margo.

Ive said it for ages... you need a jab, good defense, foot-movement & be willing to counter every mistake made by Pac in order to beat him... Mosely made him miss like an amateur at times but never came back with anything.

 

Exactly !

These fkn guys dont understand boxing & how certain styles & tactics can can hinder the strengths of even the best fighters.

arum (& team Pac no doubt) knows the type of fighter Pac thrives on & the ones that will give him a nightmare which is why a particular fight still has not happened IMHO.

 

Bill Butthurt..your hero is scheduled to fight Ortiz.:rofl

What's your excuse now? Floyd needs a tuneup fight?

 

Right on the button

 

Morales vs Ortiz ?

Your pulling my plunger, surely.

Link or STFU

 

Lol. Reading your comment, you make it sounds like Pac lost. But it was a complete shutout with Shane reduced to riding his bike and going on survial mode after he felt Pac's power in the kd in te 3rd

 

Excuse for what ? :huh

If Mayweather wants to waste valuable yrs fighting guys that offer no threat just like his p4p friend Manny is doing then **** him, he`s a waste of time.... its beyond embarassing that they have not fought yet & FMJ or Pac vs anyone not named Floyd or Pac is a disgrace.

Thats my opinion - for about the 100th time on this fkn forum... try to pay attention in future, I cant be arsed repeating myself everyday on here.