Prime Foreman vs. Prime Tyson

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  1. yes yes santa claus is real too:lol:

    george foreman would destroy mike tyson always , tyson was made for foreman and it is the only motive because old foreman came back to the boxing. george foreman was bigger,stronger,harder puncher, he had better chin, more heart(like the legends), tyson had no heart. and george foreman is above tyson in the history, hard but truth
     
  2. lefthook31

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    Tysons no Frazier, he would have hurt Foreman badly. As soon as Foreman threw that wide open loop righthand Tyson would crush him with a lefthook that he would never recover from. Foreman would have never had a chance to make a comeback he would have just been another gold medalist notch on the belt of Tyson.
     
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    Tyson was a better puncher than Foreman, speed, accuracy, combination punching, Foreman had a bit more power. If anything i would say Tyson's chin is more proven. Heart? Foreman had a nervous breakdown after losing to Ali and quit for a decade after the Young defeat. Neither were that great mentally.

    Basically Foreman is stronger and has a reach advantage.
     
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    True, but speed usually wins in this case, and I think thats where the clear advantage is with Tyson. In his prime he could find the opening and was difficult to hit. Foreman was easy to hit and left himself open when he punched. Tyson would represent the quickest strongest fighter he ever faced.
     
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    Lyle had Foreman all over the place, Ali hurt him albeit a gassed version but he hadn't taken a huge ammount of punishment, Young hurt him...Foremans chin is hard to rate, it looked like it improved a lot in his comeback.

    Nobody in history punches a lot harder than Tyson. Where is the proof that George was a far bigger puncher?
     
  7. and?
    foreman would represent the biggest nightmare of the life of mike tyson
    tyson would be other faster joe frazier with right hand,with no heart and much weaker mentally. not more.
    ko is the only final for tyson
     
  8. the test of punchers in the 80s did prove that EVEN OLD FOREMAN(MUCH MORE SLOW) was by far harder puncher than tyson(who was much faster). the power of tyson was speed, foreman had much heavier hands and he was naturally stronger, tyson was a small guy 5´11 with overweight of musculature with speed and skill . tyson never had the raw poer of liston or foreman.
    foreman had problems with his stamina, he never was ko when he was not tired. tyson was hurt by bruno, he was hurt by tucker, he was ko by buster douglas, he was ko by lewis, he was hurt and stopped by holyfield. foreman had by far better chin than tyson and he had x 10 more heart.
     
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    Ali had him doing the Trevor Berbick dance. Tyson would have made him do the Zab Judah boogaloo.
     
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    Link to said test? (not that they mean a great deal, sports science are all over the ****ing place with their psi tests). CombatDeBoxeo is back to his physique analysis again i see.;)


    Neither Bruno or Tucker K.O. Tyson...They briefly stunned him, everything else was huge accumulation late in the fight after gassing, you know like you say for George, minus the accumulation...Lyle had George all over the place when he was fresh, far worse than Bruno or Tucker.

    Foreman was mentally destroyed by the Ali loss and quit the sport for a decade after Young, i wouldn't have him high up my guys with the most heart list.
     
  11. ali would destroy mentally anyone, ali was the mentally strongest fighter ever. but still he wanted no part of the rematch with george why? because the rope dope 2 would be impossible.
    george foreman was knocked down by ron lyle ( a very ****ing strong fighter) he got up and he knocked lyle out(when tyson was knocked down he never won a fight), mike tyson was hurt seriously by bruno with a single shot. buster douglas knocked out tyson, ron lyle was stronger and harder puncher than buster douglas,plus lyle had heart of warrior.and it is about styles, if you put foreman in the place of bruno, foreman would finish the job, bruno was a big strong guy wit glass chin. no ****ing way foreman was hurt by young, he was down 1 second because he was completely gassed
     
  12. Muchmoore

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    What I think too. When the fights actually analyzed with more than just the same boring as **** cliches it's obvious that Tyson has at least a serious chance.

    He's one of the top two greatest punchers of all time, is durable as hell, and is more than capable of throwing knockout punches right down the pipe in between Foreman's looping shots. Frazier was landing on Foreman but didn't quite have the power or durability to keep up. Tyson does.
     
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    Tyson's way too easy to push back for him to stand much chance against Foreman.
    A guy like Jose Ribalta could push him off. Bonecrusher Smith just grabbed hold of Tyson's shoulders and tied him up.
    Foreman routinely shoved guys around and held them in place by the shoulders. It's how he fought. It wasn't pretty, and it's not strict Queensberry, but it worked - and Foreman was good at it, and strong as hell.

    This idea that Tyson was so slick and technically skilled that he could avoid being manhandled by Foreman is pure fantasy on the part of Tyson worshippers.
     
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    Ali's mental strength has nothing to do with George's lack of fortitude. Completely unrelated.

    I can't make sense of anything else you said.
     
  15. Muchmoore

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    Bonecrusher Smith and Jose Ribalta lost every round against Tyson. Both guys were super durable fighters who just wanted to hear the final bell so tied him up with no offense of their own. Foreman isn't going to be fighting like that.

    You make valid points and I agree with many of them though. I just watch a younger Foreman and think that big punchers would really have rocked his world. You can't just eat shots against a puncher like Tyson.

    Foreman's defense was horrible, easily the worst out of any great heavyweight champion. It's just that he also happens to have a brutalizing offense that in his time wasn't always capitalized on. Even in the early rounds against Ali he was eating serious leather.