Will the winner of W.Klitschko vs. Haye be the Undisputed and/or Lineal HW champion?

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  1. volkan

    volkan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I dont know?
    They still need the WBC belt, but will he be the undisputed champion?

    And what about the Lineal Championship, who have been vacant since Lennox Lewis?
     
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  2. volkan

    volkan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Anyone?
     
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  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not undisputed in the sensse of needing the WBC

    but he has the RING Title

    I dont know if he is lineal

    it went Lewis retired

    Vitali retired

    then I dont know if somebody got the lineage or if Vitali is re recognized in his comeback
     
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  4. volkan

    volkan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    SInce i know nobody has been called the universal or Lineal champion since Lennox Lewis.
     
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  5. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only way we get a true champion is if Haye wins and then fights Vitali. The winner of that would be the true, undisputed champion, and the new lineage would be made from there.
     
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  6. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think Haye gets the Ring title for beating Wlad. He would be the man, sure, but not the undisputed or lineal champ. He'd have to beat Vitali for that.
     
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  7. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    Of course he gets the ring title.
     
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  8. CountOfJabbing

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    Lewis won all 3 of the major championship belts(wbc,wba and ibf) when he beat Holyfield.

    Holyfield won all 3 of the major championship belts(wbc, wba and ibf) when he beat Douglas.

    Foreman won 2 of the 3 major championship belts(ibf, wba) when he beat the lineal champion Moorer.

    All three had more legitimate claims to the title when compared to Wladimir.

    Wladimir has won 2 of the 4 major championship belts(wbo,ibf,wba,wbc), he has yet to beat the second best boxer of his reign(vitali).


    Wbo wasn't considerd a major heavyweight title until the rise of the Klitschkos.
     
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  9. volkan

    volkan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And it still really isn't. :deal
     
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  10. volkan

    volkan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There is a huge different to be The Ring Champion and to be The Lineal Champion.

    These to titles are NOT the same.
     
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  11. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    Yep.... another reason to root for Haye in this one.
     
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  12. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He will be WBA and IBF. Still need the WBC.
     
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  13. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I saw Wlad as the lineal and Ring champion after he beat Chagaev. That was a bout between the #1 and #3 guy at the time and does the trick for me, even though it isn't perfect. To expect a guy in today's climate to gather all 4 belts isn't realistic. Politics and fewer appearances by fighters make that a near impossible feat anymore. Considereing Wlad has beaten most of the worthy opponents out there including Chagaev when he was rated #3 made him the champ.
     
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  14. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Wlad already is.... so yes.
     
    WiDDoW_MaKeR, May 9, 2011
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  15. Black2023

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    Without doubt this is for the undisputed heavyweight championship, 3 of the 4 major belts are at stake.


    You can bet your bottom doller than if Haye wins he will take on Big brother Kilt.
     
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