Lennox Lewis vs. Jeremy Williams under London Prize Ring Rules

Without preparation for either guy, I'd go with Williams. Yes, seriously.

Thoughts?

 

Lennox Lewis knows he wasn't made for the London Prize Ring. That's why he avoided it altogether by being born much later. It's the facts, people. Deal with it. He ducked Boston Tom. He ducked Boston Tom!! There's nothing else to say.

 

I go with Lennox, comfortably.

But what makes you favour Jeremy Williams?

 

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2:50

 

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Much as I enjoy your Boston Tom posts, I think you're going the wrong direction here. I'm an equal opportunity predictor as far as LPR goes: if somebody has the skillset, I usually pick him -- modern or otherwise.

I'm also sane enough to know that 172 pound superheavyweights like Boston Tom (he was naturally a 300 pounder, but he trained down to 172 because athletes liked to stay lean in those days...) wouldn't be pushing guys like Chris Arreola around no matter what their wrestling experience.

So...on a serious note, I'm guessing you'd pick Lennox anyway?

 

A couple of Judo throws wont win you LPR. Lennox Lewis is made for those rules. He would hit Williams with long hard and straight blows and then when he gets tied up in close, he simply takes a knee. If Williams is lucky enough to land a McCall or Rahman, there is a 30 second line to come to scratch. Lennox is not a good clincher, but he is big enough to wear out people in the clinch and he is straight hard hitting means it will matter little. I think the rules suit him.

 

I know who Lennox Lewis and Jeremy Williams are but I've never seen a contest fought under The London Prize rules, nor do I know what the full rules actually are.
It's an interesting question but I'm not qualified to answer it.

In a boxing match under current rules Lewis would knock Williams out in 3 rounds or less.
If you allow Judo throws Lewis is outclassed.

 

Williams was tough and had power but his skills and chin were ****. I still think he kicks Lewis ass in a street fight. As good as Lewis was as a boxer, he was a clumbsy guy with boats as feet.

 

I suppose a judo throw is the last thing you expect when your sparring in preparation for a unification fight. Williams was a ****!
If it was a fight and it ended up on the floor i'd imagine Lewis out-muscling him, because he can't do any more judo throws while on the floor, and then landing the one shot that would be required to put Jeremy to sleep.
Then i would fancy Lennox's size 17 foot across his jaw for good measure. Uncalled for i know, but Williams is a ****!

 

Technically, LPR doesn't permit you to go down deliberately. I suppose that Lennox might get away with it, though, so good point.

Williams, while not an incredibly skilled boxer, had enough experience to allow him to close and clinch pretty regularly without getting hurt much. In modern boxing, even a vastly inferior fighter can turn a fight into a clinchfest to avoid getting pummeled. Here, it would allow Williams to get into a range that would suit him.

As a sidenote, if Lennox leans down over in a clinch, LPR would also permit Williams to choke him unconscious (as Heenan nearly did to Sayers). That could certainly extend beyond the 30 second mark.

 

Yep.

Actually, since judo has groundwork, Williams would almost certainly choke Lennox out or snap his arm on the ground. Not that this would matter in LPR, since the round ends when a fighter goes down.

Yep.

 

Not sure what the background to that exchange was, so hard to say whether Williams was in the wrong.

 

Williams wasn't in the wrong. There was some needle between them, which Emanuel Steward stirred up and egged Lewis on to give Williams a beating before they dismissed him from camp. It was probably over something petty, but obviously Steward wanted to gauge Lewis's meanness and readiness, and he probably didn't like Williams at the time either.

So Lewis went quite hard on Williams, which is his right anyway. But Williams saw things differently, and retains his right to self-protection too ; it's sparring so he's under no strict obligation to get knocked out, even by his employer. I guess there are a variety of interpretations.

I can't say Lewis was in the wrong. Or Williams.
Steward comes across as a *****, but his part in it is justifiable under the priority of his job description - to get the champ in shape, mentally and physically.

 

Steward actually told Lennox to beat him up the day after Williams used his judo. Williams used his judo after Lennox hit him while he had his guard down while continually bitching Lewis with his mouth. Jeremy didn't like it and threw him.
Williams was getting good money to help Lewis prepare for the biggest fight of his career and took the **** with his antics with the fight just 2 weeks away.
The next day Lennox kicked his arse and sent him home.

 

Williams was also bad mouthing Lewis to audiences when performing stand up (at which he was ****).

He was clearly trying to further his own career by talking crap and taking the **** in sparring. Steward was pissed off at this and instructed Lewis to give him a hiding in their last sparring session before sacking him.