Wladimir / Haye - who do you WANT to win and why?

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  1. DavidChao

    DavidChao A contender,.. a somebody Full Member

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    But what of Cunningham and Adamek @ CW? I'm not convinced.

    Unfortunately, Adamek's reputation since moving up to HW is that he's lost has power.
     
  2. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Wladimir hardly even clinches anymore, in fact it's usually the opponents who try to hold on for dear life. Peter held ridiculously in the second fight & still Wlad pummeled him. He's beginning to improve his inside fighting ability as well.
     
  3. rorik_bender

    rorik_bender Bellhop. Full Member

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    I want to see a good fight and I want to see both of them being KD.
    Wlad is going to win. Haye is no Brewster, Purity or Sanders he cannot apply constant pressure on Wlad nor he can withstand Wlad left hook to the temple.
     
  4. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    What do you mean improve his inside game? Prior to Stewart IMO he was the most exciting Heavyweight to watch, the he got knocked out a couple of times the 1st time by Sanders then a little bit later by Brewster and ever since then its all gone to **** he completly destroyed the style that made it fun to watch him...
    Now he is down to jab and grab jab and grab the whole ****ing night.... though that wins fights thats not what this sport is supposed to be about....
     
  5. Mookhound

    Mookhound Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cunningham might have an argument, but Adamek hadn't really rebuilt his reputation when Haye was champ. Anyway, Haye beat Mormeck who was number one at the time.

    And Adamek simply does not beat Haye.... Or Wlad Klit.... Or Vitali Klit.... Or Solis.... Or Povetkin.
     
  6. RUSKULL

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    Oh, and of course I want Wladimir to win and I'm sure he will. I want him to win because he's a better role model for the sport and he'll more than likely reach the 50 KO mark against Haye. If Haye won it would be just another classless trash talking chump who's planning to retire anyway.
     
  7. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    I repeat:

    Wlad doesn't clinch that much at all anymore. Try watching the recent fights. He does jab an incredible amount but he's a boxer/puncher & that's what they do. Especially when they have the size & skill to beat their opponent "long distance" like that. Then he lowers the BOOM with a right hand or left hook because their competition is too worried about the jab to defend against the power punches.
     
  8. geppy

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    "Valuev a tough obstacle for anyone" ? :lol::lol: Holyfield and Larry Donald at 48 years old can outbox Valuev!! Ruiz as bad as he sucks has a case that he beat Valuev. Valuev is as bad as it gets for being a title holder. Maskaev would probably decision him.

    Haye claimed at a recent press conference The Klitschkos have avoided Valuev and handpicked other opponents. Now that is funny. At that point I realized that Haye is totally full of ****.
     
  9. RUSKULL

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    I guess you haven't noticed the new uppercut in the arsenal either....................Wlad was tearing Peter up with it, many of them from the inside. You can expect to see that new uppercut against Haye if Haye dares to come in too low :deal But I still think Wlad will start the beginning of the end for Haye with a left hook off the jab.
     
  10. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Yeah, lowers the boom after they're beaten to a bloody pulp. He does clinch a lot. I wonder how many times he clinched Peters in his last fight. No matter how much you hate the criticism you can't change that truth. I think there was more clinches than in Ali-Frazier II. And we're talking Sam freaking Peters.
     
  11. Mookhound

    Mookhound Well-Known Member Full Member

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    While I completely disagree on Haye, Wlad doesn't clinch excessively. I've no doubt that he will lean down on Haye at times, but it won't be what any of us would call excessive.

    You must read full transcripts of haye's interviews. The guy know he sounds like a nob...
     
  12. Mookhound

    Mookhound Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think ruiz did beat him the first time. I'm just saying he's a toughie for anyone and only Haye beat him convincingly. The Klits would both beat Valuev comfortably as well.
     
  13. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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    Okay Ruskull your on kid, when the fight happens lets see how much holding the bigger man does not do in this fight, I bet you he does more holding than anything, I firmly beleive his game plan is going to be to muscle the smaller man by grabbing on to him leaning on him and jabbing when he is at a distance.... lets see....
     
  14. Bobdigi

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    Last time I tuned into a klit fight I saw one of them beating up some old fat guy who I remember Lennox knocking out OVER A DECADE AGO!!

    its a joke! everyone goes on about Audley but these guys havn't exactly been taking out world beaters FAT Peter FAT Arreola!! come on man all these champs have go less than steller opponents on their resume but thats what being a champion is about... taking out the chumps and proving who the man is
     
  15. Mookhound

    Mookhound Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don;'t think it will be. Steward does his research and he'll know that part of Booth and Haye's obsession is doing things differently. They believe that they can win by essentially training Haye as a weightlifter. Klit leans on Haye, then he's leaning on (I would guess) the strongest fighter in heavyweight boxing. Maybe that works later on, given the stamina issues this brings, but not in the first few rounds.

    Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see that, because it would show that WK and steward have got their plans completely ass-over-tit.