Wladimir / Haye - who do you WANT to win and why?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by idealista, May 10, 2011.


  1. theboy_racer

    theboy_racer Boxing Junkie banned

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    Lewis and Wlad are two different animals altogether.

    Lewis could be boring in spells like nearly ever fighter ever but he had many exciting moments and fights, there is no comparison to be made (certainly not ability wise, its not even close, like levels apart), ive never seen Wlad be entertaining that he has won yet.


    Should add that another reason i want Haye to win is because i truly believe he is the better boxer, as in more skilled, not just faster, more explosive, more entertaining etc, but just better, he is not ATG but he doesnt need to be to be better than Wlad.
     
  2. dave-slave

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    Wlad has many exciting moments, I can appreciate the fact he never gives the other guy a chance.

    His domination is superb.

    Like George Foreman recently said, Wlad would be a good fighter in any era.
     
  3. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not really bothered who wins. I like both equally.

    However, I'd love to see Haye knock Wlad out to see the reaction on ESB. It'd clear out some of the racist Klitschko fans, that's for sure.
     
  4. dave-slave

    dave-slave Guest

    Jack what racist fans? Y

    oh yeah and if you think some people dont want Wlad to get beaten because he is a shade or two lighter, youre not listening hard enough.
     
  5. Rudolph

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    I want WK to win because I've been his fan since the early 2000. We've seen ups and downs and ups again, seems like a lifetime. Watching Haye insult him all this time and pull out of fights makes it all the more desirable.
     
  6. idealista

    idealista Active Member Full Member

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    I really like Wladimir and he deserves a win by KO over Haye... But if Haye wins and Adamek outpoints Vitali (I'm 80% sure of that) we would have another huge unification fight. I've got my fingers crossed for that.
     
  7. shaunster101

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    Whoever . . . I want to see the best fighter win in a good, entertaining fight. That's the point of seeing the best fight the best, no? I just want to sit back and see what happens when they're finally in the ring together.
     
  8. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    I've seen plenty of thinly veiled (and some not so thinly veiled) racism from certain Wlad 'fans', at the risk of generalising it's mostly from the Polish fans - I genuinely haven't seen any from the posters I know to be German.

    When someone is bringing up 'impurity' into a discussion you know their agenda is not boxing driven. I think a poster or two may have even been banned for this kind of thing. Anyway - this kind of behaviour is obviously no reflection of Wlad, unfortunately some idiots have just associated themselved with him because of his skin colour. I'm sure there are those who have done the same with Haye.

    I have also seen some Wlad claiming racism, with a couple of 'fans' saying the only reason people want Haye to win is because he's black, because obvious only black people would support such low life scum :-( . Pretty ****ing ironic if you ask me

    As for racism towards Wlad, I can't say I've seen any (apart from perhaps relentless, who'll say anything to get a reaction) - I assume most of his fanbase is British, of which the majority is white. But obviously I don't read every post, so of course I may have missed some.

    It's just a shame that this kind of **** even needs to be discussed in this day and age. You'd hope we be past it.
     
  9. miketysonko

    miketysonko Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye, because Wlad is boring
     
  10. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i want wlad to win.not because haye is a complete wanker and not because his fans go over the top about his abilitys and resume at both crusierweight and heavyweight but for the simple reason that i dont see the point of a man unifiying the division then ****ing off it will leave it worse off than it suposidly is..if haye wins he will be the downfall of the heavyweight boxing not the saviour..the so called false prophet if u will...
     
  11. MrAwesome

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    It depends. I want Haye to win to silence all of the hate he gets, and I'd like to see him go on to fight Vitali also, but I like both guys. Both are cool enough guys in boxing and both are really talented fighters. I'd edge towards Haye as he has more to prove and more people to shut up.
     
  12. Antsu

    Antsu Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I’m huge fan of Wlads cautious jab, crab and protect egg chin at all cost style, but I hope that Haye knocks him out
     
  13. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Bump

    Not sure why though
     
  14. ajillusions

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    This was when I was a member but didn't have the forum as part of my daily internet routine. I'll comment now but only in the context or a rematch!

    I have a lot of time for the Klitschko brothers and actually think the Haye fight was the making of Wladimir. Before, he was seen as robotic and a bore and not worth any interest in but now, imo anyway, the perception of him has changed into someone who is gentlemanly and a bit of an ambassador for the sport. I've only seen certain scenes, but I like the Klitschko movie and want to watch it in it's entirety. Wladimir's performance against Haye, I thought, was excellent. Everyone was going on pre-fight about how so many fighters are perplexed when Wladimir sticks out his jab… it's the variety of that lead punch that defeats so many, however, against Haye, it was the right cross and leading with that punch that got the better of Haye.

    For a rematch, though, I'd probably like to see Haye win but only under the following provisos (that will never happen but hey, a brother can dream) A: It leads to a Vitali fight and also a trilogy with Wladimir, B: it leads to Haye being an active fighter for once as a heavyweight, I'm talking 2-3 fights per year minumum and C: he takes on genuine contenders and not just the elite names, Chisora being a step in the right direction. My main reason for wanting Haye to win in a rematch is not because of a fanboy tendancy for either fighter (there are things I like about both guys) but because it could open up the division a little bit.