Leading With Your Dominant Hand.....

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by evalistinho, May 11, 2011.


  1. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    pacquiao is also right handed fighting southpaw
     
  2. Big George

    Big George Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think that's what happens to a lot of guys who fight as amateurs. It's necessary to develop pop in both hands and appear as ambedextriouis as possible to your opponent. If you do have good pop in both hands it should not make the fighter 1 dimensional. Also it's easy to develop a comfort zone in an orthodox or southpaw stance if you're confident about your power in both hands. It also helps with keeping the feet outside of the oppponents. Good pop and footwork! Well, Shane had 1 of the 2 this past weekend!
     
  3. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But pac is like ortiz is a sense. They are right handed but for some reason their money power shot is in their left.
     
  4. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i remember Cotto switching to southpaw against Mosley and he was landing straight lefts on Shane fairly easy as well.
     
  5. gungfu

    gungfu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac is a weird one because he seems to be an ambi..I've seen him throw a baseball with his left, write with his left and throw darts with his right etc (or is is the other way round?).
     
  6. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because morales has balls
     
  7. Slickstar

    Slickstar Crisp This Full Member

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    I see defecting being more beneficial for a right hander than a left hander. If you're right handed, you become a southpaw and most people don't like to deal with southpaws. The main punch niggs are trained to watch out for against southpaws are the str8 left hand. A right handed southpaw's kill shot would most likely be the right hook, and he can develop a great right jab. A southpaw with a great jab and crazy hook is even more awkward for his opponents compared to the more common left hand happy southpaws. Most young southpaws in the amateurs are encouraged to develop their st8 left over the southpaw jab. I rather have a dangerous hook than str8, something that is very likely to develop if a right hander goes southpaw. The hook was traditionally meant to be the killing blow. YOu throw the 1, jab,-2, str8, and then 3, hook, to finish them off. What makes the hook so dangerous is that it'll be outside the field of opponents visions if it's set up properly. PUnches people don't see hurt them the most. If you did a count of all the KOs you seen, most of them come from a hook.

    I would stick with fighting as a southpaw if I was left handed. Cotto and Oscar are the famous "traitors". They have great jabs and hooks but are limited to their lead hand. The jab is more about speed and timing than power. Your weaker hand isn't used as much throughout your life, so it's lighter and can travel faster. I rather have two great hands over one excellent hand. Both of them always look so awkward trying to throw a right hand.

    THere's the problem with the dominant foot being in front, most people have a one sided dominance. A left hander is generally left footed, and a right hander is generally right footed. Have you ever noticed how clumsy and awkward their footwork is? Cotto is very flat footed and has balance issues. Oscar and Barrera are flat footed.

    A trainer will teach his fighters to plant most of his weight onto the rear foot. A convertie has a weaker base since the majority of his weight is on his weaker leg. You can throw a better str8 or cross if you're pushing off your stronger foot, and it makes you more mobile.

    Last problem is left handers who are loyal to the southpaw stance EAT the convertie "traitors" for dinner. All the guys manny performed best against were convertie "traitors": Oscar, Barrera, and Cotto. The convertie problem of being too left hand happy, flat footed, and immobile hurts them against true southpaws. Conventional wisdom is that a good str8 right hand is the punch to use against southpaws. Majority of these converted guys can't throw these kind of right hands.

    I had a gymmate who was a left hander fighting out of the orthodox stance. It was great for him in the AMs to spam punches with his dominant hand forward, but he ended up being limited to nothing but a left hook in the pro games. Having only one "power" punch hurted him.

    This is all coming from a southpaw.
     
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  8. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Great post. Im southpaw as well. :good
     
  9. Slickstar

    Slickstar Crisp This Full Member

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    naturally right or left handed?:thumbsup
     
  10. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    naturally left handed. I dont use my right for nothing. At my old gym they made me go orthodox and i didnt feel right even though i had a good jab with it. I moved recently and the new gym has me back at southpaw and been working on my right a lot. Got a fight coming up in the summer so im excited bout it.
     
  11. Slickstar

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    I'm a left hander with a trainer who wanted me to go orthodox. I kept staying in the southpaw stance though, so we just kept it that way. There was plenty of figuring out on my own since he wasn't so versed in training southpaws. First thing I figured out how to land is the str8 left to the body.
     
  12. Zerwas1

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    I'm orthodox and a right hander. But I'm jumping with my left foot and have been able to shoot with both feet in soccer when I was young. I'm still doing the goal kick with my right foot thought, but nowadays I lost the right foot for everything else.

    My left hand is much better in boxing, but that's just because you use it a lot more often.
    I think it's a training thing, it depends on which hand you use more often
     
  13. paloalto00

    paloalto00 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I box with my dominant hand forward and it seems to have opened up my arsenal, I have a strong and quick jab and since I started boxing like this I developed my left hand to be stronger than my right
     
  14. evalistinho

    evalistinho Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    During the fight between Floyd and Ortiz they were mentioning that since Ortiz is a righty fighting out of a southpaw that his straight left leads were very weak compared to Floyds straight right leads and that he would have to depend more on the right hook during the fight.

    Could this be a reason that fighting with your dominant hand in front can be a disadvantage? Although i have seen Ortiz use his left effectively before but Steward and Lampley did mention it a couple of times.
     
  15. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Bad idea actually if you are a powerpuncher because being a leading hand, it sure do make a very good jab, but it also minimizes the KO ratio.

    On the other hand, it might be a good one if your dominant hand is not as powerful, because obviously, your other non-lead arm is less powerful. Being a leading hand, and dominant at that, it is faster and would augur well to decision victories.