30 yrs ago this May, Cooney waxed Norton at MSG. WICKED!

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  1. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Folks,

    For us boyz who were in high school in the early 80s we will freak upon reflecting back to May 1981 (30 yrs ago) when 225 pound Gerry Cooney KO'd 225 pound Ken Norton at MSG, New York... It's scary how time passes by once you hit your teens...
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    Gerry Cooney back in 1981 was around 24 / 25 yrs old and peaking, while Ken Norton was supposedly hatched in 1945, thus making him damn near age 36 when he was brutally KO'd by a series of Cooney hooks and rights within 54 seconds of the opening stanza...
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    All in all, I really don't think Norton's age was as much as a factor as some would like to stress. Reason why is, Norton was in great shape physically and solid in 1981 at 225 pounds of muscle. Fact is, Norton has always been an enigma against punchers, along with owning a chinny chin...
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    Come the start of the fight, both came out looking for action but, Cooney just happened to strike first blood along the ropes in which Norton never recovered. What followed up is partly classic and partly scary as hell. 'Nuff said.. Fight over inside 1 round... Norton slumped in the corner in a state of stupidity...
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    Any thoughts to reflect here from 30 years ago?:huh

    SR.BILLARDO:hat
     
  2. Unforgiven

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    Norton was definitely way past his best and coming off some very bad performances, no longer a viable contender. But he was a recognisable name.

    Brutal KO.
    Referee Tony Perez was late jumping in. I guess he didn't want to get in the way of Cooney's hook ! :shock:
     
  3. MRBILL

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    I don't know how to post and paste a clip from youtube onto ESB, so if anyone cares to do so, feel free....

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  4. Unforgiven

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    Done.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fb0Qidm9Fg[/ame]
     
  5. MRBILL

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    Short, but swift....:shock::good

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  6. Seamus

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    pretty awesome display of power... and the right hand set everything up.

    i swear, the eyes may deceive, but cooney still has one of the prettiest left hooks any heavyweight possessed... especially any tall heavyweight.
     
  7. Swarmer

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    Jesus, can't stand seeing Norton getting pummeled like that in the corner. Awful.
     
  8. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is one of the striking things about Victor Valle's development of Cooney. Gerry's right tore open Young's face, stunned Norton initially, and later flattened Philipp Brown. As deadly as his hook was, his right was diligently evolved into a highly serviceable weapon as well, one mysteriously absent in the challenge of Holmes
    And he delivered it in a surprisingly short, tight arc.

    Norton was coming off a competent performance against Cobb where he shook off the rust. Clearly not the same as he was in his prime, but not as far gone as many suppose at this time. But Ken was actually a slower stater than Frazier, Palomino and Mike Spinks, and this would have always cost him dearly with Gerry. (He spent most of his match with Cobb countering off the ropes, due to Tex's immense physical strength and toughness. Fortunately, Cobb couldn't punch with leverage. Trying to fight Cooney off the ropes would be suicidal though, and was never attempted by anybody who survived him for any length of time.)
     
  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Good insights. Norton was only 35 (young by today's HW standards) and though he certainly had lost a step he was only 3 years removed from one of his greatest performances when he fought Holmes. It wasn't so much him being shot, chinny or old... he just got caught early and couldn't recover before more bombs landed. Maybe 10 years earlier he could have, but just maybe.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    A split decision against Cobb, a gift draw with LeDoux and a one-round massacre defeat against Shavers are serious indicators that Norton was either, 1. close to being "shot", or 2. not a particularly good fighter at all anyway.

    :deal
     
  11. mcvey

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  12. Kalasinn

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    Norton never took big punches well, but christ that was brutal. :scaredas:
     
  13. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    i remember watching this on tv somewhere as a kid and thinking wow
     
  14. Stevie G

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    Cooney definitely displayed great potential in this bout. This could/should have been the moment when his management put him in with some young contenders,in order to give him a bit more seasoning,before throwing him in with a prime Larry Holmes. But no,their heads were turned by a quick megabucks payday. Bloody disgrace.
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    To be fair, lots of people reckoned Cooney could KO Holmes, so it wasn't just his management's mistake. Holmes had been badly hurt by Snipes in his previous fight too, which would have added to their confidence.

    Cassius Clay's management did the same thing putting him in with Sonny Liston.