My All-Time 60 Best British Fighters

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  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have been putting this together since the start of the year, it is finally complete.*

    Some things you should note; the only active fighters I rated, were those who began their career before January 2001. I considered a fighter retired, if he has not had a fight since December 2009.

    I did not use the American-Irish fighters of the turn of the 20th Century.

    I used Bob Fitzsimmons.

    So here goes, I am sure I will have quite a few who disagree:

    60 Walter McGowan
    59 Alan Rudkin
    58 Ben Jordan
    57 Robin Reid
    56 Dick Turpin
    55 Colin McMillan
    54 Jim McDonnell
    53 Carl Thompson
    52 Paul Hodkinson
    51 Herbie Hide
    50 Billy Hardy
    49 Tommy Farr
    48 Junior Witter
    47 Sir Henry Cooper
    46 Tony Sibson
    45 Colin Jones
    44 Richie Woodhall
    43 Len Harvey
    42 Freddie Mills
    41 Michael Watson
    40 Joe Bugner
    39 Johnny Nelson
    38 Terry Downes
    37 Steve Robinson
    36 Owen Moran
    35 Clinton Woods
    34 Jackie Paterson
    33 Jim Watt
    32 Billy Plimmer
    31 Frank Bruno
    30 Terry Marsh
    29 Maurice Hope
    28 Howard Winstone
    27 Barry McGuigan
    26 Dave 'Boy' McAuley
    25 Pedlar Palmer
    24 Herol Graham
    23 John H Stracey
    22 Alan Minter
    21 Dennis Andries
    20 Jem Mace
    19 Ricky Hatton
    18 John Conteh
    17 Lloyd Honeyghan
    16 Duke McKenzie
    15 Ken Buchanan
    14 Rinty Monaghan
    13 Nigel Benn
    12 Chris Eubank
    11 Randy Turpin
    10 Benny Lynch
    9 Freddie Welsh
    8 Naseem Hamed
    7 Joe Calzaghe
    6 Jack 'Kid' Berg
    5 Ted ‘Kid’ Lewis
    4 Jim Driscoll
    3 Lennox Lewis
    2 Jimmy Wilde
    1 Bob Fitzsimmons

    Those who just missed out: Jackie Brown (The 20s/30s Version), Walter McGowan, Terry Allen, Charlie Magri, Joe Burman, Johnny Owen, Scott Harrison, Eric Boon, Billy Schwer, Charlie Nash, Brian Curvis, Dave 'Boy' Green, Chris Pyatt and Dave Cockell

    There were others who made the final list, but were cut, the most famous being the Finnegan brothers, Kirkland Laing, Spencer Oliver, Terry Spinks, Paul Ingle, Johnathan Thaxton, Gary Jacobs, Ryan Rhodes, Howard Eastman, Glen Catley, Henry Wharton, Fidel Castro Smith (Slugger O'Toole), Glen McCrory, Gary Mason and Horace Notice.

    *I have tinkered and the list does not sync with my all-time 100 list.
     
  2. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe im being thick but no david haye? or is this just fighters who have retired
     
  3. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I couldn't list 60 of anything.

    I think I once achieved about 35 or 40 in an ATG list.
     
  4. Scottrf

    Scottrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fantastic effort, a respectable list.

    Seems strange to include someone like Jem Mace but not Tom Cribb for example? Would have thought it made more sense to excused barenuckle boxers.
     
  5. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love these lists always great to create a bit of debate my instincts are that Hamed Benn and Eubank are too high.

    The problem comes really in trying to evaluate the fighters of 60s-70s that won a world title and defended it once or twice versus the more recent fighters who held a version of the world title and defended against mixed opposition many times.
     
  6. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No Peter Kane?

    Good list overall, though :good
     
  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mace gets in there as probably THE pioneer of gloved boxing, thus no Cribb.

    I decided at the start Mace would be placed 20th, no matter what.

    Actually with one exception:

    I normally place Benn and Eubank equal; but got off the fence, and gave the .0001 to Eubank, so Benn would immediately follow Eubank's placement.
     
  8. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Kane was initially listed (I worked off lists of the classic eight divisions, to help compile the overall list).
     
  9. Flea Man

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    Steve Robinson is ridiculously high. As is McKenzie. Buchanan a lock for the top ten IMO.

    Rudkin and McGowan way too low IMO.

    I'd have Lennox above Wilde as well to be honest, mainly due to being more familiar with his opposition, though Wildes wins over Lynch were pretty special.

    A solid stab, it is your opinion and I respect it, think there's some weird ones though. If you've gone per division, have you weighed up the strength pf each division respectively as well?
     
  10. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For instance I ranked Duke McKenzie as a Flyweight, but his ranking was for all of his resume from 112 to 126. Paul Weir would be rated as a Flyweight, but would get a Pound for pound bias.

    Looking at the numbers: (Surprisingly, IMO) only 4 from Flyweight; 5 Bantams; 7 Feathers; 3 Lights, 6 Welters, 8 Middles, 10 Light Heavies, 7 Heavies, plus the ten that were on my all-time top 100 pound for pound list.
     
  11. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Quick and lazy rule of thumb I use is a dodgy version of the world title today equals a European title in 1950/1960/70s, even the Brit title in some cases.
     
  12. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Great effort BTW TBooze!! You've got more patience than I have!!:good
     
  13. DaveyboyEssexUK

    DaveyboyEssexUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well technically speaking Watson was above both Benn and Eubank
     
  14. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Out of curiosity, to those who've down a top 100, how many Brits were in it?
     
  15. wrimc

    wrimc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would say you could make an argument for about 5 Brits 7 tops