Jake LaMotta Calls Tyson a "Bigger Marciano"

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  1. Hydraulix

    Hydraulix Left Hook From Hell.. Full Member

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    I've heard people compare Tyson to Marciano before. Why is that? I don't see it. In my opinion, Tyson fought more like Dempsey. Jake compares Tyson to Rocky around 1:56 in the clip.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joPL1ZOMKtc[/ame]
     
  2. SonnyListonsJab

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    I don't think Tyson was more like Dempsey.
     
  3. Swarmer

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    I agree that in terms of career, style, and even mentality he was much more like Dempsey.
     
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    SonnyListonsJab Active Member Full Member

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    Marciano > Dempsey :good
     
  5. teeto

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    agreed
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    Marciano and Tyson were both 5'10 guys, with short reaches and devastating power in both hands. They came forward in aggressive styles looking for the KO at all times.

    I think Tyson used some moves that resembled Dempsey's bob-and-weave, and through fast hooks spring out of his crouch like Dempsey did. So at times they do resemble each other - and Tyson almost certainly copied some from Dempsey.
    But Dempsey was a completely different build and his style, for all his famed ferocity, was not always the same come-forward "swarmer" style that he's often lumped with.
    Dempsey had long arms, and skinny legs, stayed up on his toes a lot, danced in and mauled guys in the clinches, and can even be seen half-turning away and retreating his position at times. In some ways he looks more like prime Holyfield than prime Tyson.
     
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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    LaMotta is one sharp dude...at least he was then. Maybe he still is.
     
  8. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If anybody Tyson was comparable to Smokin' Joe Frazier. swarming style, crouch move foreward quick punches. But Joe could take much more punishment!
     
  9. teeto

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    I disagree man, Tyson isn't really an out and out swarmer to me, Frazier is always on your chest, he is the ultimate swarmer at hw, whereas Tyson didn't mind standing off you and exploding on you with a combo after making you miss with your jab, he's more Floyd Patterson than anyone else imo, and more Dempsey than Frazier for me.
     
  10. SonnyListonsJab

    SonnyListonsJab Active Member Full Member

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    I think Tyson was a bigger, more powerful, stronger Floyd Patterson. Not Dempsey. Dempsey was a tall rangy fleet footed fighter, more like a holyfield.
     
  11. Swarmer

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    Sure, but that doesn't change the fact that Tyson is much more like Dempsey.
     
  12. teeto

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    yeah but the point is that Tyson is more Dempsey than Marciano
     
  13. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:LaMotta is a little sociopathic wiseguy. Clearly not intimidated by Tyson in the slightest. Not that Tyson was trying to intimidate, but alot of fighters around him in these type of interviews tend to butter him a little bit
     
  14. BlackWater

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    Honestly I would call Dempsey a prototype Tyson. Tyson fought like Jack, but did everything better.
     
  15. teeto

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    this is a great interview man, LaMotta is right about how he could roll with shots