haha a thread full of stupid pac fans and ther arch enemies the "*****s" get a life u fukin stupid twats. pac is good fighter, floyd is better, floyd is dull pac is entertaining end.
Sounds like you sense the ship is sinking and you're telling your men that everything's gonna be just fine in order to prevent panic attacks. Arum is in the driver's seat. Pac is a passenger going along for the ride. Floyd's legacy won't grow strong until he completely retires. Fifty years from now people aren't going to remember that Floyd bullied security guards and beat his ex gf, same way people today don't talk about Ray Robinson's personal troubles. Sure, Pac will always have his resume to keep his name significant but from here on out the cloud of suspicion over his head keeps expanding. If he doesn't do anything about it, he'll end up as the Barry Bonds of boxing. To me Pac's not even the baddest Filipino boxer right now. He's become a sole entertainer. He's more interested in diamond belts and singing on tv than fighting top P4P guys. I have a lot more respect for Nonito Donaire for these big reasons: -He fights and destroys the best competitors available (no catchweight, no washed up fighters involved) -Does not ***** about random blood tests, got balls to prove he's 100% clean -Does not kiss Arum's ass -Makes no excuses Things can and probably will change eventually though. For better or worse? We'll see.
What does that have to do with anything? So if a fighter shows gratitude and loyalty to his promoter, who helped him reach the highest of heights in boxing and made him more money than he could have ever dreamed of, it makes less of a fighter? Damn, when haters hate, they hate all out. And Donaire breaking his contract with Arum after he got him the fight which turned him into a superstar, that helps make him a better fighter than Manny? To me it makes him a dog, and it's possibly stuffed up his career, so it makes him stupid too. Why do you think he left? He left because he didn't like being overshadowed by Manny and he wants million dollar paydays which is rare for smaller fighters. Hardly admirable reasons. You know, greedy and egotisical Mayweather and De La Hoya type figures are despised in the normal world. It's the humble, gracious folk who are more respected and admired.
People bring up the catchweights, but how many catchweight fights did he have in all the divisions before he moved up to welterwight? When there are other people fighting in their 7th or 8th weight divisions to compare with, then maybe you can criticize him. For now, just be glad he was willing to move up to find competition.
True that. Out of everyone who has had catchweight fights in the past, Pac would have to be the smallest fighter to do so, always weighed in well below his opponents, and definately as you pointed out had gone up more divisions than anyone else.
:roll::roll: Well lets give Barry Bonds a Pass on suspicion ... Never mind that Barry head has grown , lets over look the fact that he was able to pac on quality muscle after the age of 40, lets just for get all that and take his word that he never took anything. Same with pac, lets over look the fact, that since moving up in weight, Pac has been able to increase his punch out put while moving up in wight, meaning pac is throwing over 200 punches more at welter then when he fought at 103 at the same time increased his aerobic out put and punching power.. Nothing Odd about that :huh Also during those early times in Pac's career we are told that he was cutting weight from his natural weight of 147 and yet he was still able to increase his performance :huh Ariza should be a very rich man, even with out pac. he is the first conditioning coach in history that has found the secret of increasing performance while cutting and adding weight , you would think every football team, collage and basketball team in the world be in line for his extraordinary services. Ariza is a ****ing conditioning genius, he has done what absolutely no other condition coach or athlete has done in history .. Pac fans are correct, there is nothing to raise an eyebrow about, why would anyone question this.. :conf